Psychotherapy
In late 2006, I realized I needed a therapist. Maybe it was because I was prone to dramatic outbursts over inconsequential comments and criticisms from women around me. Maybe it was because I was going out and drinking six nights a week. Maybe it was because any time a girl told me she cared about me I freaked out and shut her out of my life. Maybe it was because I realized that I was so desperate for validation that I would become upset if people at a party weren’t always paying attention to me. Maybe it was because sober sexual encounters made me so nervous that I could hardly perform.
I don’t recall the exact breaking point, but I suppose one day I woke up and realized that I was an emotional wreck and I should probably do something to fix it.
Both of my parents attended therapy for much of my adolescence to deal with their divorce. Ironically, most of my therapy sessions dealt with the same topic. But my father always swore by its benefits, so I was fortunate in that I grew up without the negative stigma most people attach to therapy. When I realized I needed it, I had little hesitation.
Six months later, my relationships improved a great deal. I was exercising greater self-control in my social life. I had actually calmed down and dated the same woman for three months. One day I walked into my therapist’s office and told him, “For the first time in six months, I’m not sure what I want to talk about this week.” He said that was a good sign. That was my last session. To this day, therapy is one of the most important developmental tools I’ve had in my life. It helped me a great deal. And the years in which I was a dating coach, I recommended it often.
What Is Psychotherapy?
Everyone has heard of therapy in some form or another, but a lot of people don’t have a clear idea of what it is or what they’re getting into. One stereotype is that you lay on a couch and cry like a child. Another is that it’s just some guy who prescribes you pills. Another is it’s some guy who shows you ink-blots and asks you what you see. As with many things, these are caricatures created by pop culture for entertainment purposes. Most therapy is far more dull and far more personal than this.
The idea behind psychotherapy is that most of our decision-making comes from unconscious aspects of our mind. As long as these parts of our mind are unconscious, we’re unable to exercise control over them. The primary purpose of therapy is to help us become aware of these sections of our unconscious, accept them and then begin exerting control over them.
For instance, a man who gets uncontrollably angry when his girlfriend doesn’t call him back, there’s something buried within his unconscious which is causing him to react in such an irrational manner. By attending therapy, he can start digging into his past, his emotional development, his traumas, his life problems, his childhood, and find the trigger. Maybe his mother made a habit of leaving him behind when he was most vulnerable. Perhaps his first girlfriend cheated on him repeatedly and was rarely available. Whatever. Once uncovered, the man can process the anger and the hurt in a safe environment. This will then allow him to become more aware of the anger and therefore not feel so powerless to these outbursts when they happen. Eventually, he should be able to exert enough control over the emotion to modify his behavior.
Another popular form of therapy is Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (CBT). CBT is useful for changing specific habits or thought-patterns, particularly anxiety and depression. CBT focuses more on observing your thoughts and how they lead to behaviors rather than unconscious emotions. Both forms of therapy have their own strengths and weaknesses. Both are quite effective depending on the issue. This site’s own Approach Women Program is based on CBT in helping men get over their anxiety meeting and talking to women.
Problems with Therapy
There are a lot of criticisms of therapy, and although most of them are made by people who have never actually attended therapy, some of them are legitimate. If you are considering therapy or are already in therapy, here are some things to watch out for:
- Professional Pill Prescribers- People often mistake psychologists/therapists for psychiatrists. Psychiatrists prescribe medications and specialize in mental illnesses. Psychologists (generally) do not. Unfortunately, the reputation has developed that ALL therapy consists of, whether by a psychologist or psychiatrist, is a queue to get easy drugs. Unfortunately this is true for some practitioners.Unless you believe you suffer from a mental illness, I would recommend a therapist/psychologist and only pursue medication if therapy seems ineffective over an extended period of time. Many people go straight to a psychiatrist who then hands them anti-depressants or some other pill like it’s candy.
- Be Pro-Active. Take Responsibility for Your Progress- Many people attend therapy with the expectation that they go sit in a comfy chair and the therapist will magically fix them. Sometimes they even get frustrated when “nothing happens” in their therapy questions, when in actuality they’re hardly participating in them.Therapy is a participatory activity. In fact, I would argue that if therapy is going well, it’s because you are doing 80% of the work. You should approach it with the attitude that you are there to work on yourself and the therapist is there to facilitate you and give you a push in the right direction. See them as a personal trainer for your mind and emotions. You’re still doing all of the heavy-lifting, but they’re there to spot you, encourage you and direct you. If you aren’t willing to do the work, then they can’t do anything to help you.
- Switch It Up- Therapy is still subject to the Law of Self Help: you can judge the usefulness of any self help tool by how many people are leaving it. If people are leaving it, it works. If people are staying, then it’s not working. Many people leave therapy with success stories (myself included), but many people stay for years and years with little to show for it.Many people fall into comfortable patterns with their therapists. In the beginning, they may uncover some major issues and make some big changes, but eventually, the therapist won’t be able to offer a new perspective, the patient will come in every week or month for years on end, they will discuss the same topics, and they will enter into a loop of: patient shares problems, therapists validates problems, patient feels better about problems and leaves, comes back later with similar (or the same) problems.
Don’t fall into the trap of paying someone to validate your issues. It’s tempting and it’s easy to do, both for you and for your therapist. But don’t do it. Therapy should feel a little uncomfortable. It should challenge you. It should make you think about your life from new perspectives. It shouldn’t feel good all the time. If it ever becomes repetitive, then it may be time to get out and find a new therapist or try something else.
- Treat Hiring a Therapist Like Hiring an Employee- Another problem people have is that they are not selective with the therapist they hire. You should treat as if you’re interviewing people for a job opening in your life. Most therapists offer free consultation sessions where you can meet them, get to know them and describe your problems to them. There will be some therapists whom you naturally click with and others who you don’t. Some therapists will be able to relate to your problems personally, others won’t.When I sought out a therapist, I purposely found a younger male who used to party a lot and was a musician. I felt like he could relate to me and where I was in my life. Things went really well. Recently, when Tucker Max described his therapist, he noted that he intentionally found an elderly woman because he felt most comfortable talking to women and wanted a woman who wouldn’t put up with his bullshit — a motherly figure. Take a moment to consider what type of therapist could best relate to your issues and help you and seek them out. Hiring a therapist is a large commitment, so take it seriously.
Do You Need Therapy?
As I mentioned earlier, I’ve referred a lot of men to therapy over the years. Most have ignored it. Some have gone. A few have come back and thanked me for recommending it to them. It’s hard to say for sure who needs and who doesn’t. Therapy is one of those tricky things, like most self development tools, because it’s rarely ever a bad thing to do. One could argue that everyone needs therapy in some form or another or for some period of time. But I would only recommend it if you feel you aren’t able to handle your emotional issues on your own and have tried for a while.
Here are some signs you may want to consider therapy:
- You have emotional or sexual impulses you don’t have control over: angry outbursts, fear of intimacy, sexual anxiety, bouts of depression, etc.
- You come from a difficult childhood, had absent parents or a poor relationship with your parents.
- You’ve suffered some major traumas in your life (death of loved ones, abuse, major health problems, etc.).
- You have compulsive behaviors which interfere with other areas of your life: i.e., partying, chasing women, drugs/alcohol, etc.
- Most of the relationships in your life are dysfunctional and/or unhealthy (always fighting, lots of blame/guilt, etc.). This includes friendships, significant others, family members.
- You are overly pre-occupied with one aspect of your life. Common examples include: obsession with being “cool” or popular, obsession with impressing others, obsession with your sexuality, constant need for approval and to impress others, even obsessing about improving yourself (feeling like you’re never good enough), etc.
If you have any specific questions about your situation or issues, feel free to post them in the comments below. Obviously, I’m not a therapist, but I deal with men’s emotional problems day-in and day-out, so I may be able to steer you in the right direction.
I’d also love to hear some readers’ experiences with therapy, both good and bad. So if you have experiences with therapy, please post them below. Hopefully this will encourage others to seek the help they need and give them a safe environment to pursue it.




Really thought-provoking article Mark. Def everyone could well benefit from some kind of therapy to better understand themselves.
A related article could be on ‘when to seek a life coach’ and how it’s different from what you describe above.
Interestingly as a teacher of English I’ve found it odd just how ‘inner game’ issues can get in the way of the odd student. And this is just learning English, not usually the highest priority in their lives but certain issues can affect their world fully.
It makes me wonder what it means when I do exactly what they requested, but then they are afraid of doing it. Fear of something..
If you’re already in therapy, and unsure if it’s working effectively, this might help: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/opinion/sunday/in-therapy-forever-enough-already.html?gwh=9C1B7AB03349FB28D509F397EC98EF4A
I’ve tried about everything else to get over my doubts and insecurities. I’ve been seriously considering going to therapy, unfortunately my schedule won’t allow it for another few months.
Thanks for the article.
@Tim That article was very interesting, I’ll keep it in mind with my therapist – especially as I do see myself leading the majority of the two sessions we’ve had.
@Mark I recently just started due in part to some of what you’ve said in previous articles and in part to reading Clarisse’s book and some of the comments on her blog. I feel like my involvement with “the community” has been a major healing point for most of my insecurities, but I’ve come to realize that if I’m say, on the metro, and a woman starts checking me out when I’ve not mentally prepared myself for it, I lapse into a state of paralysis and start to feel a very strong sense of unworthiness. Or if I lock eyes with an attractive woman that I haven’t spoken to yet, I start to feel a strong urge to cry if it lasts for a long period of time. Likewise, in the very rare occurrence that I’m introduced to a single woman by a friend, I tend to get very shy and feel insecure. The crazy irony is that the last time this happened, my friend would point to a woman in the bar, and I could approach and be my normal confident self, and then slide back into insecurity when I returned to the “friend of a friend.”
I didn’t think more experience approaching was gonna help solve that, so I signed up for a therapist. I’m not entirely sold on the one I’m currently seeing, but I hate shopping around and he has a very different perspective to offer (albeit out of touch with modern dating dynamics – he’s never heard the term “game” used in the context “Man, that guy was smooth. He has game.”). He’s given me some things to think about and a couple book suggestions to look into, so I’ll see where it goes.
good stuff as usual Mark
I just need to get your book again, lost the e-book version when my computer crashed and burned (too much porn my young brother quiped ha)
but yeah long time reader, since the days of the your article on the Zen dilemna and the article from David Foster Wallace, they where turning points.
big Fan
Great article! As a psychologist, I wholeheartedly approve your advice. Another reason to consider therapy – you see the repeated patterns in your life and want to understand them. Oftentimes we repeat patterns we were socialized into and unconsciously repeat them, be they negative or positive. This is especially true for romantic relationships so it is really important to acknowledge and understand patterns if one is interested in breaking the negative ones.
BTW, I find your blog very inspirational even though I am a woman.
This was great. Coming to terms with who you are and accepting yourself for it is an important part of a persons development, at least imo. I’ve personally attended a very small amount of therapy with a few different therapists and it’s always been very helpful to me. This article is definitely motivating, especially when you mention a lot of people drop out of it. I’ve never made a serious commitment even though I’ve seen a lot of the benefits of going at least semi regularly. I plan on attending more in the future. I’ll be moving soon and hopefully were I move I can find a few English speaking therapists… I was considering maybe signing up for online therapy. I read about it in a few places about it and I’m planning on looking more into it. Who says you have to be int he same room? I had a health consultation the other day that felt like therapy in a way and we did it over Skype. Here is an article I just read about it after reading your site. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mindfulness-approach/201007/online-counseling-therapy-service-skype
great insight. something interesting to explore is whether the need for mental therapy is more of a first-world problem or not. Interesting pdf article here:
http://download.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140673611605874.pdf
As someone in the field, I am glad to see not only a fair and informative article on psychotherapy, but also a male’s welcoming of engaging in deep emotional work. Great tips for making the most out of the work too!
Great article dude! Makes me want to go to therapy!
I have some experiences with therapy.
The first time I went, I went because I wanted to overcome my social anxiety. And the reason I wanted to overcome my social anxiety was because I was desperately awful with girls. The therapist told me, first of all, that I was not socially anxious. He said: “Look, I treat guys who have serious social anxiety disorder, and you don’t have that.” Then I told him about how I wanted to get good with women, and he started to question that desire. (Note: I basically was a virgin back then who couldn’t even make out with women.) He directly put my issues and desires into question, in a way that didn’t help me at all. To top things off, he said he had a ranch in Spain with horses, and that I could go there to talk to the horses, because that is apparently a form of therapy.
I quickly stopped going to that guy obviously and I learned that not all psychologists are good psychologists.
Next time I went to see a psychologist was to address issues concerning sexual shame and porn habits. This was freaking scary to do, but I basically told the therapist everything. He didn’t seem used to discussing these issues, but my goal was to share them with another person, and I did that, and I felt proud of that. I didn’t feel much acceptance because he seemed a little uncomfortable discussing all the things I discussed with him, but I did feel better after the few sessions I had with him.
Some time later I didn’t feel like I achieved closure on this issue, so I looked for a sexologist. The sexologist I found was much better at talking specifically about shame and sexual issues. He talked openly about everything and said that he saw young men with issues exactly like mine all the time. He reduced my shame considerably and gave me some new perspectives to chew on.
Overall, I believe that therapy can be tremendously helpful. But it is important to realize that therapists are humans too, and some of them you won’t click with, and some are just plain bad at their job. Be sure to find a good therapist. But if a therapist challenges you, that can actually be a good thing.
Yes, psychotherapy is like any other profession in terms of competence and commitment. I’ve heard that even when you are an exceptional clinician, you’re lucky if you ‘match’ good with 1/3 of your clients. I’m sorry to hear you had a bad experience with the first therapist. It doesn’t sound like he was working in your best interest at all. I am glad that you kept on searching though and taking responsibility for your concerns. It makes me very angry when I hear about people who have had bad experiences and develop mistrust toward the profession. There are some truly wonderful people in the field.
awesome story Halo!
Talking can definetly help. I’ve always had very deep bonds with my male friends. You know those typical guys nights. Friendship between men is really something very valuable!
I’ve had a bad experience with therapy myself, basically I found that he was a very judgemental person. Which sucked. I eventually found my own way out of it since I’ve always been a very introspective person.
Halo, could you write about your experiences with pornography in the no-more-porn thread? I’m just really curious to what your experiences are before and after a period of porn use. I’m planning on writing a reboot story myself as well. But I would still like to wait another month or so, before i’ll write a full experience.
I’ve seen many guys reboot successfully and it’s really insane how drastic their changes can be. Some guys go from zero ambition, confidence to men who exude charisma and who are very confident. Believe me I’ve seen it happen a lot.
If someone is reading this, you can visit http://www.yourbrainonporn.com for a very interesting introduction to this topic. The site has a purely informative agenda and you can read up on guy’s experiences.
I am a strong believer that almost everyone can benefit from therapy.
I started seeing therapists last year, and it has helped me progress tremendously. It’s helped me develop an excellent sense of self awareness.
There’s a lot of pseudo-advice out there on the Internet, some of it useful, but a lot of it can hurt too- some advice is good for some types of people, and harmful to other types. A therapist can instead tailor therapy to your needs- that’s their job.
My only knock on therapy is that it’s both a sizable time and financial commitment. There are benefits, but sometimes the return on investment is questionable. The bad ones will still be helpful though- just be ready to cut them off if things are progressing too slowly.
See a therapist. It may not work out, but it’s well worth a few sessions. I only wish I had seen a few years ago.
Every therapist I’ve had up to this point has been older (like over 40 or 50; not too sure about the actual ages here) and way too sensitive. They rarely tried to probe too deeply and almost every session was just “feel good” masturbation. Obviously, its nice the first couple of sessions, especially when you enter feeling down on yourself, but that usually fixes itself, and your left with a politically correct guy who’s afraid of ruffling some feathers.
I don’t know. Maybe it’s all just me, but I think I’m going to try finding a younger guy. I feel like I have some defense mechanisms that interfere with certain aspects in my life (school, friends, women, etc.). Is there any particular practice of therapy anyone could recommend? I want to feel like I’m challenged more, and possibly be asked uncomfortable questions that will make me search deep within myself.
Hi Passion,
Look for a clinician whose orientation is psychodynamic. I think an approach that is ‘object relations’ oriented would be a good match for you.
I’ve currently had about 10 sessions of individual therapy and also attend group therapy sessions. My therapist is an introvert and offers no advice or emotional validation whatsoever. Instead I “free associate” and talk about whatever comes out of my mouth, focusing on the emotional reactions that arise which quite often catch me off guard with their timing and intensity. Also, because I know almost nothing about my therapist’s personal life, he becomes a blank slate upon which I project my own feelings and patterns of behaviour. This has led to some awkward moments…
This is currently working for me because my issues are existential (identity, what it means to be authentic) rather than situational (break up, relationship problems) and hence I need the space to be able to freely explore and define my issues. Someone else with a different set of issues might work better with a more confrontational therapist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae5RK3JQCs
Hey Mark.
Just wanted to say that because of your book and recommendations I started going to therapy and it’s really been helping after months of constant theory, reading, and approaching. Just today I reached a huge break through concerning vulnerability, in not wanting to open myself up to women, or hear about their stories/delve into them. I knew this was hurting my dating life, and I wanted to go where I was uncomfortable. Did so to a great deal in therapy, exploring my past issues, then did so on a date a few hours later. The girl reciprocated heavily, more so than I thought she would. Vulnerability is powerful!
I’m using free therapy services at my University now… I feel more comfortable talking to a guy and the therapist I see is a guy who’s not too much older than me, and specializes in relationships.
I whole heatedly recommend therapy to anyone, especially in the PUA community. It’s opening doors that months of reading PUA theory could ever do for me. It’s scary, but also exciting at the same time in being able to re-connect with women again, and discovering my inner workings that may or may not be slightly out-of-date to what I should be aligned with now.
Its sounds like you have been using the famously crap “non-directive” therapists who answer every question with a question and are basically no use to anyone.
Therapies like Rational and Emotional Behavioural Therapy or Cognitive Behavioural Therapy as Mark recommended are (almost) universally regarded as more useful.
It depends on the issue, Jack. Overall, the best approach is to be flexible based on the client’s here-and-now needs. Non-directive therapies can be useful, but like all other therapies, it depends more on the therapist you’re seeing than the actual approach.
I always considered therapy myself, but i’m scared that my problems will be interpreted the wrong way by the therapist. Like telling her i read about picking up women and actually spend a considerable amount of effort approaching them and other things she might perceive as “weird”. Then she/he might diagnose me in the wrong way.
Whatever you do is essential to therapy because if you leave out part of your life, how can they truly, as you say, “diagnose” you correctly?
I told my therapist the first session about my involvement with the seduction community, and it’s led to a lot of realizations about why I joined, the good and bad about it, trying to have “the perfect approach” every time, worrying so much about what people think of me, trying to pick up every girl, and on and on.
I’m far from perfect from this (my therapist harps on this every session) but inside therapy is supposed to be a safe place where you speak freely and don’t worry about being judged. I would say it’s the place where I’m really working on being vulnerable, so that I can be that way in my life.
Yes, but i’m not sure how hard this seduction community thing would hit on some people head. It would be very easy to diagnose me with narcisistic perssonality disorder just because i dress outside social norm and because i’m into the community, trying to pick up women like some sort of trying to compensate low-self esteem. I mean, i honestly don’t think i have that disorder (i hope)… and she can be some feminist and try to persuade me out of this lifestyle, wich is something i’m not willing to do. Or some male psychotherapist who doesn’t like the fact that i actually get more women then him.
I know these are stupid doubts about psychotherapy, but i honestly don’t want to be misunderstood. It would be awesome to go to pyschotherapy to cope with break ups and other negative beliefs and emotions i still have and doubts for the future and all, so i guess i’ll try to sign up for CBT on my campus.
thanks for telling me about your experience because it made me feel a little more safe with the idea that i can actually talk about this part of my life with a therapist.
Hey glad it helped you. It’s true and I think it’s like many people above are saying, progress and usefulness of therapy is HEAVILY dependent on what therapist you get. I was originally hesitant because mine is someone who’s just finishing their Ph.D. and is doing an internship at the University. I thought “I’m not going to get as good of advice as from someone who has been doing this for a long time”, and I raised this concern with him. He said no worries he does get that, and I can change if something isn’t working out. That thinking is BS. It’s all dependent on the person… I’m sure people doing this three times as long as him wouldn’t be as good because a) I feel comfortable talking to him, b) I am challenged, c) he pushes me to think, he doesn’t just supplicate.
Don’t be afraid to change therapists if you don’t think you’re getting what you should be out of it. And as for telling them that you’re in the seduction community, I decided to tell him that the first session just because it’s such an integral part of my life (trying to make it less so now) that I knew there’d be a lot he could garner from my involvement in it. Whether you’re comfortable talking about it with the therapist I guess depends on how willing you are to be honest with them and yourself, and as well as how much you trust them.
Also you might want to consider trying to get a male therapist… Especially for things involving the seduction community and sexuality I find the idea of talking to a guy way more comfortable (as recommended in No More Mr. Nice Guy/Glover) in discussing insecurities dealing with them. But that’s your call.
Good luck!!
Jean,
I doubt a therapist would diagnose you with NPD because you dress abnormally and are into pickup. The fact you can publically consider if you have it or not pretty much eliminates the possibility that you do.
Also, I think you need to be a bit more ballsy. I mean so, lets say your therapist thinks your a crazy loony. Who gives a fuck what they think?
This is a good post, i’m considering seeing a therapist myself to see if it could benefit me. I’ve read a lot of your articles on here and there is some great insight. I also bought your book, and I was considering trying your approach program however I am getting a new apartment for college and new books so at the moment I am limited in funds. I have been approaching women myself more and more, so far i’ve been turned down but it’s getting better. Maybe therapy will help me see some emotional issues that I am not aware of. I know it’s not my weight (i’m in great shape) and I have decent clothes. (I’m not looking to be a pua, i just want to get some women in my life.)
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Oh wow, I seem to exhibit all of the signs of a person who needs therapy lol. Not that I’m surprised…
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I have been going to therapy. I had a bad break-up and just couldn’t deal with it on my own anymore. I was depressed and lonley and didn’t know where to begin to put my life back together. It is very hard work, therapy, because you have to face yourself openly and honestly. I didn’t realize I lied to myself so much and really it was only hurting me. Whenever anything went wrong, I would always turn into my worst critic. I was so closed off and secretive I couldn’t open up to any woman and an emotional wall. I had isolated myself from everyone I cared about because I didn’t like who I was. I was afraid and scared and didn’t know where things were going in my life. I am still in therapy and can say on many days I still have doubts, but sometimes, just sometimes….I have hope. The power to change things has always been mine and mine alone. (Thanks for your book Mark.)
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Last year I went to therapy for about 8 sessions, once a week. In the first visit, my therapist asked me about my family, what I would like to do at university, etc, and in the end she asked me why I was there. I told her a little bit about my social anxiety disorder and then the time was over. I thought it was okay for a first meeting. But in the next sessions she started talking about random stuff and then my problem was no longer the focus of therapy. Every week I used to go to her office thinking that it would be different, but then I realized I was just wasting my money and I quit.
Now I’m thinking of starting again with a new therapist.
Yes. That’s a shitty therapist.