(03-31-2012 05:30 PM)Mark Wrote: And Dan Rose has a baby-mama... coincidence? Probably not, hahaha...
But yeah, I'll pass on that. With that said, I fertilized the shit out of my Brazilian GF last night... (it still cracks me up to say this).
Wrong hole, Mark.

My doubts about karezza being better than sex that is more focused on orgasm need to be clarified. Let me say first that I have never had a relationship that lasted longer than a year, and I haven't read much about karezza, and I am biased because I have put much effort into becoming better in bed and learning to give women pleasure, and if it is true that the best way of having sex is not focused on orgasm, then this pisses me the fuck off... classic cognitive dissonance.
Having said that, we could make three categories of sex:
- Karezza
- Normal sex that normal couples have
- "Masterful Lover" sex, the sex that David Shade teaches (and similar teachers)
I can be very easily convinced that karezza is superior to normal sex. From what I hear, it is very common for men to be god awful in bed. It is very common that couples have less and less sex as time wears on, usually because the woman gets bored with it. One big reason why relationships can fail in the long term is the lack of sex or the lack of any sexual attraction that happens after a while of this.
What David Shade teaches is not simply sexual techniques. It goes much, much further than that. And there are countless reports of how using those lessons have improved relationships dramatically, even 10+ year marriages.
A "Masterful Lover" (David Shade's term) knows sexual techniques, yes. But he is also a man who believes strongly in himself, who is masculine, confident, assertive, a leader, a man who respects himself and a man who always holds his word. A man who absolutely loves women and understands their needs, and who has a neverending fascination with female sexuality and pleasure. He likes nothing so much as to give his girlfriend or wife pleasure and to make her feel good. Outside of the bedroom, he makes sure that she feels sexy, feminine, beautiful, special and appreciated, and he cultivates a strong, intimate emotional connection. Being a strong, dominant and masculine, yet vulnerable and sensitive man is part of being a "Masterful Lover". In bed, he makes her feel uninhibited. He takes away any shame and makes her feel fully validated. He takes all the responsibility and she can let go into pleasure she never thought possible. He knows that good sex is not just physical but that female sexuality is mostly emotional and mental. He makes it absolutely clear that sex is not just about him or his pleasure. Sex is about their special bond, and about her pleasure. He knows her sexual fantasies and he revels in them and uses those to turn her on. He always keeps the sex exciting.
THAT is what I compare Karezza with. And it may very well be that many of the things that make Karezza effective are the same things that make what I wrote above effective. But I certainly believe that amazing sex (with orgasms!) can bring two people closer.