(03-08-2012 05:28 AM)Lamaman Wrote: As for the self-hatred, it's deserved
Ok, you lost me again here. Self-hatred is never 'deserved'. Nobody 'deserves' to be hated. People 'deserve' to be understood, which it seems clear you are completely unwilling to try and be with your country.
Hatred is a common human emotion, and a highly understandable one, but nobody deserves it directed at them, no matter how badly they have acted. There are always reasons and motivations for how people act, and while it's reasonable to be angry, hurt, or even hateful, blindly acting and speaking from these motivations is going to end up hurting you just as much as it does them. If you have to hate your own people, realise that your hatred of them is damaging you as much as them. Does that seem like a better reason to at least try and work with that hate?
(03-08-2012 05:28 AM)Lamaman Wrote: the overseas ones have to resort to a behavior where they have to pull each other down whenever someone has great success or fame penetrating beyond the group and confines of the culture, like how crabs in a boiling pot pull other crabs down when one tries to get out.
This is nothing new to me. Where I'm from; New Zealand, we have a concept called 'Tall Poppy Syndrome', where supposedly our people are afraid to succeed, so they try and cut down others when they do.
Does this really exist in my country? It does and it doesn't. I've noted that many New Zealanders can be very tough on our athletes, business people, and actors when they fail. There seems to be a great pleasure taken in proving that they are as human as the rest of us. Then, on the other hand, I work around many people who completely disprove that suggestion. Who are endlessly supportive, always constructive with their critcism, and who I know with confidence deeply want me to succeed. And I can find this anywhere I go in New Zealand. So yes, my country might be a bit worse than others in that regard, but it's not as extreme as its proponents would have you believe.
Look, we've seen this self-hatred on this forum enough that it becomes incredibly tiring to fight it. You have to take it in little steps though. Surely you wouldn't be so extreme as to say your country is all bad. Can you say one positive thing about your country and its people, without any qualifications? And make it a sole post, with nothing else related to it.
For example, for me:
I love New Zealand and New Zealanders because they are a generous people.
One positive thing, no qualifications.