(04-27-2012 03:18 PM)Mace Wrote: Mark, if you've spent any significant time around <25 American girls, you know they throw words like "creepy" and "awkward" around like no tomorrow. They want to avoid awkwardness at all costs - and for many, an hour or two is too much to invest from a 10 minute interaction. That's why an element of comfort building - via text and phone - is a sound method of courtship.
If you're saying you can cold approach attractive young American college girls in America, chat them up for 10 minutes, text them to come out, and have them show up for a date 90% of the time (as you claimed in another post) I want you to tell us how it's done.
Lol, your experience with American college girls is drastically different from mine. If a girl will come home with me after about an hour at a bar, this whole "grab a drink for an hour" thing is really not a big deal.
College girls are also so outrageously impressed by guys who have their shit together (which is totally reasonable since most college dudes don't) that the following is how its done
1) dress like you have a job
2) talk like you have an interesting lifestyle
3) flirt a bit
4) seem genuinely interested in her
5) Make concrete plans in person. This last bit is actually a big plus with younger women. Most guys are like "uh, lets hang out some time, somewhere." If you say "I know this great bar on x and y, let's go. What are you doing Wednesday at 8?" She will be massively impressed. If you throw in "It has ceviche, are you ok with sea food" she will be amazed. If you top it off with "it's pretty casual, not sneakers casual but jeans casual" her head might explode at how worldly and together you are.
(04-27-2012 03:13 PM)baller08 Wrote:
Quote:What's bad is I don't really want to go on dates with girls that have to be convinced to go on a date with me. I'd rather just go find another woman who's excited to see me.
But perhaps that's a privileged position.
It is and that's a position that has to be earned. You earn it by having dates and learning from your mistakes. I don't see banter on text as convincing a girl, I just see it as an extension of the initial conversation. Eventually, if a guy gets enough women, he'll learn how to make the initial interaction better and subsequent secondary communication becomes less necessary other than logistics for the 1st date.
Look we all have limited energy and time. As you yourself acknowledge, if you are good at this, the initial interaction goes well enough that you don't need phone or text game. That's the goal. You are exerting time and energy towards a skill you should ultimately drop for short term validation.
Here's my analogy.
Some college football teams use offenses that are good for college, but not great for the NFL. Tim Tebow learned such an offense. He rushed a lot for Florida, won a championship. Problem is, it's not a good pro offense. Contrast that with Andrew Luck. No championship for Stanford, but he went in the first round because he pro offense and was thus more prepared for the big leagues (note he also got drafted over RG3, who is arguably more naturally talented, but didn't have a track record of playing a pro offense - although it's not as bad as Tebow).