But Mace the point is: YOU CAN CREATE COMFORT WHEN YOU MEET THE GIRL, IT DOESN'T TAKE SO MUCH TIME IF YOU CONNECT WITH HER.
I don't understand why you don't see this. Of course if you just see a girl on the street walk up to her introduce yourself and just ask for her number, nothing is gonna happen. BUT if you connect with her, if you "click" with her, if there's chemistrty there's a high probability that you are gonna see her again, once she's interested to see you again the date is gonna happen. Yeah, some girls you never gonna see 'em again, but some are gonna go out on dates with you. It seems that you want to go out with ALL the girls you meet, that's impossible, let it go. It's better if you accept that dating is a numbers game. Go on dates with those girls that are very receptive to you and forget about those that are not receptive to you. That's all.
(04-19-2012 10:50 PM)Mace Wrote:
(04-15-2012 02:52 AM)Leo Wrote: Mace have you interacted with a girl that DOESN'T PLAY GAMES? Isn't it wonderful? When she shows her attraction toward you, when she's HONEST and open to go on dates with you and get to know each other better, instead of being acting like a retarded: playing hard to get, phone tag, scheduling games, etc. What can you expect from a girl like that? How enjoyable can be an interaction with her? When she's gonna stop being fake? How authentic can be a person like that, how AUTHENTIC can be an interaction like that one? I think a girl that behaves like that is the equivalent of what you are trying to do, and the opposite of what these guys are trying to tell you. Who wants to deal with a girl like that? She doesn't know how to express her emotions, how to communicate, she needs to rely on a bunch of ruses (manipulation) to get a guy. It's not real, not authentic. A waste of time.
Leo, those are all valid points. But here's the reality of most attractive young college-aged America girls - they play games!
So here's the deal:
1) Do I want to play an endless numbers game?
2) Do I want to make the most of the numbers I do get?
Keep in mind the context of the OP - quick day game number closes where often there is ATTRACTION, but a lack of COMFORT.
Given the aversion most young American girls have to "randoms", "creepers", "sketchballs" etc. most will rationalize ways to NOT meet with you on a date. What if he's a creeper? What if it gets awkward? And then there's the influence of all her cockblocking player-hater single girlfriends.
Unless your game is super-tight like z, the vast majority of girls you close in this context will be MAYBE girls. That 10-15 minute phone call can reassure that you're a chill, normal guy and convert her form a MAYBE girl to a YES girl. Jumping the gun and "texting her out" prematurely can easily spook the girl from a MAYBE girl to a NO girl.
How often do we see this on this forum? Guy meets girl, texts her some chit chat, they never hang out. How many of those numbers could have been converted to dates and lays if some time was spent building COMFORT over the phone first, old school?