It's Pissing Me Off!! - How Advice is Being Given on This Forum

[Matty]

(04-16-2012 01:01 PM)SeXyBaCk Wrote:  What's wrong then with a bit of good old debate here and there? That is how opinion are shaped, shifted and knowledge is exchanged, compounded and developed after all. I like myself a decent debate.

Let's be frank here for a minute... every other week there's some new theory on attraction backed up by psychology articles on the internet, staking a claim that said theory is scientifically proven and therefore better than what the other guy came up with, him on that other site. It just so happens that it's academic practice to test and re-test theories. I don't want to make this into a huge winded post, but in my opinion seduction is far from being science. And in the realm of pseudoscience (where no conclusive proof exists), can anyone truely be surprised it a debate mostly results in a shouting match... or more often a cross website bad-mouthing exchange? Therefore, the way I see it, it's in the nature of the beast that threads like the one mentioned in OP will keep popping up and will continue to generate a stir.

I feel that that same mentality of "I'm more right than you" is then carried over into the advice columns. This concept of there being one piece of solid advice while the rest is just obscuring is foreign to me. You ask a large audience you will be presented with a number of options, more than one being viable.

What strikes me is that a lot of men who turn to seduction (for help) find it really hard to make up their mind. So there has to be one guy, the guru guy with a silly hat on, who knows all, he can give advice, and everyone else just needs to shut up, because if not, it's just all too confusing. Deciding for myself what I'm going to do about this particular woman, even though the options have been laid out for me black on white by my peers, it's just too darn hard isn't it. There's this desciple and scholar ring to the whole community.

That's the seduction scene to me in a nutshell, weak men trying to tackle and argue a basic emotional process (finding a woman to mate and share your life with) by applying cognitive (which are claimed to be academic) skills ("i better spin her around now, or better yet, tell how I saved a granny from choking on a meatball"). What was that about the blind leading the blind? Anyway, I'm starting to sound like I'm on a rant.

I don't mind Tim speaking for me... if I disagree, I speak up. Again, disagreements are productive in my understanding, as long as they are well tempered. I consider that part of 'connecting' too. I don't think you should take a break from posting either Tim.

As for Mace's thread, I think he was posting a success story on how effective he was with his smartphone, he masked though by asking for advice, which he duly got.

Edit: Chaos basically beat me to spelling this all out. We're all trying to self improve here... so I think we should all share our experiences, qualified or unqualified, positive or negative.

That's basically it in a nutshell. We're not talking about engineering here, we're talking about human emotions. I also think the idea of whose qualified is somewhat arbitrary. Having a high lay count does not necessarily[/i] qualify you. It's like when Brian used to post on here using his super awesome black roommate with 400 lays as a badge of authority. I'm sure Iceberg Slims banged a lot of woman in his life, would I turn to him for advice on how to connect with woman? Probably not. So whose more qualified in connecting with woman, the guy who has banged hundreds of emotionally damaged woman, or the guy who's been happily married for 10 years. Part of the hostility your seeing as well is the fact that a lot of us are PUA refugees.