don't know whether I should give up

[luda]

Ok so let me give you some background information on my friendship with a girl named Rose. We know each other because of our social circle. Well I had sex with her friend and she had sex with mine. Lol its kind of fucked up but that's the situation. So I have told her some sexual things like I want to fuck her, eat her pussy and that I find her hot and she keeps saying its not gonna happen and stuff. Haha funny enough we still friends and talk pretty often

Here is an excerpt of a conversation we where having yesterday on bbm. Where she was asking me why I said I like her boobs in front a guy she was vibing with:

Her:No, but u ddnt have to say it right infront of him
Me:Haha ok I guess I was wrong there... So... Rose I like ur boobs
Her:What's so nice abt them?
Me:Lol when I explain u gonna call me a pervert after
Her:No I won't! I'm curious!
Me:Haha ok.. Uhm they look firm, u know big but not too big, lol they make me wanna squeeze, lick nd bang em
Her:Lmao!!!! U such a perve!. Wanna bang? I told u that ul neva bang me!
Me:Hahaha I know but hey I just can't stop hitting on you.. so just allow me to hav a lil fun
Her:Y can't u stop?
Me:Lol I don't know hey.. Its who I am I guess. Lol don't take it too seriously
Her:Lol. U won't give up?
Me:Haha ok.. I have given up though
Her:why??
Me:Lol.. I thought that's what u want
Her:it is...

So that's usually the feel of our conversations. I say something sexual and she resists it. I don't know if I should just give up or keep trying. Any advice would be helpfull and really appreciated

[Halo Effect]

She doesnt want you to give up!

Also, don't talk sexual when others can hear it.

In my experience being shamelessly sexual can definitely work. You won't get friendzoned and if she likes you at all, sex will happen. But if you do this, do not apologize and do not take your words back. When a girl calls you dirty or a pervert, sometimes it's a compliment! I bet that sounds crazy, but when you say dirty things, she has to stay in her good girl role. It might turn her on, to think of your sexual desire for her and to imagine the things you would do. But she can't admit it right away, because that would be a little 'slutty'. Maybe she doesn't even want to admit it to herself. So she might get excited and turned on, but she will resist and call you a pervert to stay in her good girl role. But she doesn't want it to stop!

Be aware that there is a big difference between a girl being genuinely creeped out, and a girl being curious and excited. She would be very disappointed if you take it back (thereby admitting that your great sexual desire for her wasn't that great after all) or if you apologize for your behavior (thereby admitting that you are not the shamelessly sexual man that you seemed to be).

[luda]

Yea that makes sense especially since she has told me that she worries whether people see her as a slut nd she doesn't want people to lose respect for her. So I guess if anything were to happen between us she wants to make sure its not her fault since she did constantly tell me no

Come to think of it I could've done something at a party with her last week. Like she came and cock blocked me and my friend (later admitted that her intention were to block us) by making small talk and asking for my phone. So while we were chilling in a group I asked her for my phone back and she kept saying no while moving back until we were alone and isolated from the group. I thought about making a move but I brushed it off as a coincidence. So I got my phone and left her.. Yea I guess that was really stupid of me to not try anything. Lol especially when it wasn't gonna be a big surprise that I actually have a dick

[Halo Effect]

Just read her body language and be aware of how she feels. It might be that she just really likes to tease, but doesn't actually want to have sex. You'll find out soon enough if you escalate a little by the way she reacts.

My advice was based on the chat you posted. Apologizing and taking things back like you did is not attractive. I also want to stress again that you should avoid being blatantly sexual with other people nearby. That's a big no-no. You embarass her and show that you aren't socially aware to her and others. You make it much more likely that she'll have sex with you if she believes that no one will ever find out.

[youregettingitwrong]

Well she is definitely loving the attention you give her. Your compliments make her feel good. Like in your bbm conversation when she asks you what you like about her boobs, she is basking the the glory that is your admiration. If she were serious about wanting you to quit it with the playful/dirty talk, she would either stop responding all together or would firmly tell you to shut it. But in this case, she is egging you on, asking you to elaborate etc. You can't be sure whether or not this translates into real attraction where she wants you to take this into physical terms, but she is enjoying your virtual flirtation so it seems. The best way to know is to make a move. She already knows you want it, so it is not going to come as a surprise and it is an easy recovery if she isn't having it. If she resists, well then that is an obvious enough answer. Same as if she accepts your physical advances.

[Oli]

Wow your username really bothers me. Does anyone else feel, despite the content of the posts, that it suggests that you're going to get a condescending appraisal of your problems?