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Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 03-14-2012 12:34 AM
I figure this would be a good time to ask, as March Madness is starting out right as I am typing this. I haven't filled out a single bracket yet this year, and am not terribly motivated to do so, given that my school (UCLA) sucked all my enthusiasm out of college ball this year, but I will probably be suckered into doing a bracket or two by a coworker or friend over the next two days. Any favorites or potential dark horses? I've watched a decent amount of Kentucky and they are dominant, and I've watched a decent amount of Big 12 ball and know there's some good squads there, but I've barely watched anyone outside of that (compulsory Pac-12 viewing, which was a pain this year, and the occasional LB State game excepted).
On the NBA front, my Clippers have struggled recently in close games with a combination of a lack of depth, lack of size on the wing, and inability for Blake to hit free throws, but the West looks fairly wide open. Russy Westbrook is my boy, and I love watching Durant, but I'll believe the Thunder can close games in the playoffs when I see it. In the East, looks like Miami will crush them all, and likely take the championship barring more Lebron anti-heroics in the playoffs again. And given that a large proportion of the PUA community is Asian, with the success of Jeremy Lin, by logical deduction, would he be the most popular NBA player among PUAs? Look out for fuzzy hats at the Garden, y'all.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 03-14-2012 12:40 AM
Haha, we had this thread about a year ago.
True green Celtics fan here, desperately hoping they don't trade Rondo.
Been a pretty decent season, especially considering the lockout. I'm supporting all the up-and-coming teams this year (once my Celtics drop out), so that means the Clippers, Thunder, and Bulls. Hating on the Heat and the Lakers, as always.
Loved Linsanity, story of the year.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Mark - 03-14-2012 12:42 AM
I'm a big NBA fan. My Celtics are washed up. I think it's very, very likely Miami is coming out of the east. No idea about the West, will be interesting.
Hard to follow everything overseas, but I usually start staying up to stream the playoffs come April.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 03-14-2012 12:50 AM
Given most of my family and friends are hardcore Lakers fans, and I am not, I was pretty damn happy to see them beat the Lakers a few years ago, and pretty upset when the Celts couldn't hit a shot to save their lives in Game 7 two years after that. I have to say though, Eddie House is perhaps my favorite basketball player of all time, particularly from his Celtic years. It's almost inexplicable, to call a guy who averaged 7.5 points per game your favorite player, but I loved his swag, I loved his irrational confidence and unlimited range, he's one of the main reasons I wear a headband and knee highs almost every time I play ball (along with Jet Terry, another irrational confidence guy).
Plus he once dropped 61 in a college game while he was at A-State! 61! Who does that in 40 minutes!
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Mark - 03-14-2012 12:57 AM
61 is ridiculous. And irrational confidence guy, take it you're a Bill Simmons reader as well.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 03-14-2012 03:08 AM
(03-14-2012 12:57 AM)Mark Wrote: 61 is ridiculous. And irrational confidence guy, take it you're a Bill Simmons reader as well.
Indeed. I do play quite a bit like Eddie or Jet or Mo Williams, another headband gunner.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 03-15-2012 04:41 AM
Bulls beat the Heat without D-Rose whoop whoop! I think we'll get a much better Conference Finals from those two than last season.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-01-2012 11:02 PM
My Celtics just destroyed the Heat, so a great time to revive this thread. Rondo played like he could be the league's best PG if only he was more consistent. Right now our biggest issue is that we have the hardest stretch of the season ahead. Good problem in not knowing where to put Ray when he gets back from injury because Bradley has taken his chance. Bass playing well too, looks like this bench could be enough to make a concerted playoff push.
I think this season is going to have an amazing playoffs. 4 teams running hot at the top but almost anyone could knock them off too. Even if they all win through it's going to make the best conference finals. Kind of would like a Lakers vs OKC more than Spurs vs OKC though.
Oh shit I'm excited!
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 04-01-2012 11:21 PM
I could never figure out what to think of Bradley when he came out of Texas. He's a good defender, but not big enough to guard bigger wings, he's good coming off screens, but doesn't have 3 point range, and he's not really a point guard. Nice to see him play with some aggression lately though, I think you have a pretty ideal spot for him as the first guard off the bench when Ray comes back.
I'd just get a kick though if two old guy teams like Boston and the Spurs made the Finals, with all these younger guns like the Heat and Thunder out there. I'm pretty sure David Stern would have a heart attack though.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-01-2012 11:25 PM
I don't think Stern has much to worry about these days. He just went through a lockout and yet the league is as strong as it's ever been. I honestly think in the next couple of years, with all the young talent coming through, we could see a golden era of basketball. Just need Durant, LeBron, D-Rose, Paul, Love, etc all playing at their best for a ring and for the rivalries to get a bit fiercer. Not enough hate going around in the league these days, hopefully the playoffs will change that.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - questra - 04-06-2012 02:37 PM
o/ Lakers fan here
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-28-2012 12:39 AM
Playoffs about to begin... This is my favourite period of the sports calendar, apart from when we get a NFL playoffs season like this year. Speaking of which; this NFL season+playoffs came after an almost lockout, and was one of the best in recent memory (see:49ers vs Saints, 49ers vs Giants, Superbowl- unless you're a Pats fan like me- and Denver vs Pittsburgh), does that mean after this NBA lockout we're going to get an even better playoffs? I believe so. Anyway, best part of the sports calendar, here we go.
First round match-ups:
(1) Chicago Bulls vs (8) Philadelphia 76ers.
Bulls. Easy. They could win this without D-Rose. Bulls are the top seed in the league and are one of those teams that don't beat themselves ever. I can see the 76ers somehow stealing a game at United Center, but then I see the Bulls being able to do the same in Philly, so no biggie if that does happen. Bulls in 5.
(2) Miami Heat vs (7) New York Knicks.
There's no way the Heat could lose this... right? Nah. But what if...? Nah. D-Wade could get injured and then Lebron would... nah. Not going to happen. Or could it? Seriously. Lose D-Wade to an injury, Bosh can't step up like he has at other times, and LeBron could buckle under the pressure. Look, either Miami are just going to blow NY out of the water in 4 like the C's did last year and I am going to feel embarrassed for even questioning this one, OR... the insanity begins.
See, in my mind there are three potential ways these playoffs could play out: 1) Top seeds calmly dispose of lower seeds, either of the top 2 seeds from each conference make it to the Finals, and the favourite out of those two wins it. 2) We get a repeat of half-blown playoff insanity like last year, where the Spurs get taken out in by the 8 seeded Grizzlies in the first round, the Mavs make it to the Finals, the Mavs WIN the Finals, etc. This could happen again, easily. OR, we get 3) FULL-BLOWN INSANITY. Both 1 seeds get taken out by 8 seeds, Denver vs LA and Orlando vs Indiana go to 7 game series, the Knicks make it to the Finals... and then lose it... at Madison Square Garden... in Game 7. Like I said; full-blown insanity.
In scenarios 1 or 2, the Heat are just too good to get taken out before at least the conference Finals, no matter what craziness is going on around them. But in scenario 3... insanity reigns supreme, and anything can happen. Or should I say... Linsanity reigns supreme, and anything lin happen! That's right. Knicks somehow manage to hold Miami to 2-2 behind one insane game from 'Melo (let's say... a 43 pointer), and then their awesome defence (no, really it is) wins them the other. At this stage, Jeremy Lin finally returns from injury for game 5, creates Linsanity round 2 by beating the Heat in Miami, and then takes a 3-2 lead back to MSG. Even if the Heat win there, every basketball fan in NY will fly down to South Beach for Game 7, effectively making it a home Game for the Knicks, and scaring the pants off of LeBron. You laugh now, but this could happen.
So, what am I saying? Heat in 4. BUT. Prepare yourself for the possibility of scenario 3, because if that happens, this series is going to be the one that lights that fuse.
(3) Indiana Pacers vs (6) Orlando Magic.
People who live in Orlando are cruelly punished on a daily basis, just for having to live in that city, and this masochism extends to their basketball team. Remember when the 2008-9 Magic beat the Cavs in the Eastern Conference Finals because of their huge height advantage? And then lost 4-1 to the Lakers because they weren't really that good, but the Cavs just sucked against tall teams who can shoot 3s? See, Orlando have made absolutely no progress since then, except for watching Dwight Howard get bigger and badder, and they made plenty of backwards progress, as evidenced the decision to trade Turkoglu, which was a good way to foreshadow how badly their management was going to deal with Howard wanting a trade this year. Anyway, I'm rambling. Orlando are going down, unless... which is crueler? Orlando losing in the first round to a team they beat 3-1 in regular season match-ups because Howard is out and then Howard walking out on the team without even giving them a chance, or Orlando winning the first round somehow, and therefore making Howard wonder if 'hmm, maybe this team and coach have got what I need to win a ring' and becoming even MORE indecisive about whether to go elsewhere, until at about the same point of this season the Dwama began, Howard realises 'oh no wait they don't' and then starts talking trades all over again? Whichever of those sucks more; that's what will happen to Orlando fans. So, I guess we'll find out in a week.
Pacers in 4.
(4) Boston Celtics vs (5) Atlanta Hawks.
With the form that Pierce and KG are in, with Avery Bradley and Greg Stiemsma coming out of nowhere, with Rondo chasing John Stockton's 10+ assists per game streak, you think I'd be happy with my Celtics. I'm not. They should not have given up home-court advantage to the Hawks so easily. Sure, Doc has a point about rhythm. And god knows the big 3 can use every chance they get to rest, injured or not. And it's good to see the reserves getting a bit (/a lot) of time in and looking like they might threaten to do something special (Sasha Pavlovic; I'm looking at you). But when I think of the chances that this series splits 2-2, and then Boston HAVE to win either game 5 away then game 6 to close it, or a game 7 in Atlanta, I'm not happy. Not at all. Being a Boston fan means never ever admitting your team is not as good as the other, no matter how screwed they are, so I'm not going to pretend this is an unbiased call.
Boston in 6.
(1) San Antonio Spurs vs (8) Utah Jazz.
Even in scenario 3 (aka insanity), the Jazz are not the 2011 Grizzlies. There is no Z-Bo on their team, and they will not beat SAS.
Spurs in 4.
(2) Oklahoma City Thunder vs (7) Dallas Mavericks.
There will be blood. Oh, so much blood. Dallas are a shadow of themselves, thanks to the idiocy of their management (Tyson Chandler OUT?! Lamar Odom IN?!) but they still have Dirk's jumper, which should be good for at least 2 wins, if not 3 somehow. I don't think they can win this, but then everyone said that about the Mavs last year right?. And OKC's recent form? Well... enough said. I want OKC to right themselves so badly I think they will, but this will be a series to watch.
OKC in 6.
(3)LA Lakers vs (6) Denver Nuggets.
I had no idea that Denver were still a good team after Carmelo left, and when they made it to the playoffs last year I just assumed it was the Ewing effect+having had Melo play half the season with them. But here they are, still a good team. Lakers are definitely going to win this, although Kobe hasn't had anyone to complain about in a while, now that Derek Fisher's gone and Pau no longer hides in the big games, and so it's about time a new target came along. Mike Brown doesn't feel right for the Lakers, but them being perpetual bridesmaids under him like the Cavs were until Kobe gets too pissed at the thought of retiring with one less ring than MJ and insists he'll leave LA for... let's say the Brooklyn Nets... unless they SOMEHOW rehire Phil Jackson does. Yeah that seems right. History repeats, so Kobe getting mad and insisting on change is definitely happening. And Mike Brown being the cause of that change is also definitely happening. So, they're probably not winning a ring this year. And if they're going to lose in the playoffs who better to lose to than a starless team like the Nuggets (well, actually there are so many better teams to lose to; Boston for starters, but let's go with this for now)? It won't happen unless scenario 3 happens, but a man can dream.
Lakers in 5.
(4) Memphis Grizzlies vs (5) LA Clippers.
Do you think if Chris Paul won this series in Game 7 at Memphis that people would start to admit he's as good as he was pre-injury? Not likely, because people love Chris Paul so much they prefer to hold this ideal view of him as the near-perfect PG, the kind of guy who can do it all, and then on top of that still come up with the game winning shot with 3.4 seconds to go. Thing is, CP3 IS that guy. It's just that the Grizzlies aren't going to let the Clippers even get near that 3.4 second shot. Did you see them take down the Spurs last year? And do you realize they're an even better team this year? I said the Clippers chance of winning a playoff series went out the window when they lost Chauncey Billups early this year. Sad but true. I love both these teams, so it's a win-win/lose-lose for me in this series, and that means I can call it like it is.
Memphis in 6.
Oh what we're done? Damn.
Ok, some overall predictions. If scenario one happens, either the Heat or the Spurs are going to take it all out. It's going to be boring, because watching LeBron win the first of many, many rings will be, or because the Spurs are. Scenario 2? Now we're talking. Teams like the Bulls and San Antonio will make it through the first round ok, but you really can't count on anything else. If this does go down, then I see three possible teams who can pull through and actually WIN it: OKC, Miami, and the Lakers. That might seem like I'm not gambling much there, but I'm calling out the Spurs, Dallas AND the Bulls. The reason those first 3 teams are there, and the second three aren't? Because I believe in their ability to scrap for it more than any other team except Boston and Memphis, who are good enough to make it to the conference Finals and even maybe the Finals themselves, but not win it all.
"But wait" you say; "I thought Boston fans never admitted their team might be inferior?". Enter scenario 3. It's all gone to shit. The Bulls lose to the 76ers. LeBron sets a playoff record with a 63 point game but the Knicks still take the series. In the Conference Finals the Grizzlies battle OKC and the Celtics are somehow taking on the Magic. Carnage ensues. Men sacrifice their wives to survive, children sacrifice their parents, David Stern rips out his hair with simultaneous delight and frustration! The impossible has been surpassed and we are now in the land of the possimpible; where the possible and impossible meet. Amongst the post-apocalyptic wreckage, two teams emerge; OKC and Boston. Boston takes it in Game 7 in OKC, with a 3 pointer from Ray Allen with 0.6 seconds remaining, coming off a Rondo assist that takes the 10+ assist record from John Stockton, and gives Rondo the Finals MVP trophy that he and I both lie awake and night thinking of!
Ladies and gentlemen, let the games begin.
Aw crap just read Bill Simmons' column and we say pretty much the same things. I'd just like to point out that I wrote this BEFORE reading his column, and WHILE reading Sebastien Pruiti's.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-29-2012 12:28 AM
Derrick Rose tears an ACL and is out for the postseason... We'll find out if what I said about the Bulls beating the 76ers without him is true. Pretty crushing to watch. Just made the playoffs that bit less interesting, but also blew the Eastern conference wide open, esp. for my C's.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - questra - 04-29-2012 02:50 AM
(04-29-2012 12:28 AM)Tim Wrote: Derrick Rose tears an ACL and is out for the postseason... We'll find out if what I said about the Bulls beating the 76ers without him is true. Pretty crushing to watch. Just made the playoffs that bit less interesting, but also blew the Eastern conference wide open, esp. for my C's.
Rose going down with an ACL was painful to watch. IMO he's the most fun-to-watch (over Chris Paul) basketball player in the NBA now. Just reminds me on how important it is that players stay healthy over the course of the playoffs.
I'd say the East is wide open now, though still probably favoring Lebron and the Heat if he doesn't choke again.
Btw great writing Tim - ever considered writing for espn?
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-29-2012 04:36 AM
After seeing LeBron's highlights vs the Knicks I'd say there's almost no way they can be stopped. He just wants it so bad. As much as I hate him, I think he's going to reach that Jordan-level of intensity and start taking playoff and Finals MVP trophies like they're candy from a baby. He's just too good.
On the other hand, Kevin Durant just made me love the Thunder even more. Drained an amazing 2-pointer with seconds to play. Mavs looked like they were going to take it away from them about 5 times, but the Thunder just kept coming back. They've got the most balanced team in the whole league with Ibaka and Harden playing almost as well as Durant and Westbrook right now, and Kendrick Perkins is no slouch either.
Thanks for the kind words about my writing. I love writing when I get in the mood, but I don't think my sports writing is that good; it's incredibly derivative of Bill Simmons, who has the exact style I love. Perfect amount of passion mixed with humour, references and a great knowledge of whatever he talks about. And he has that ability to ramble and go off on tangents without it ever getting boring, which is what I try to do but usually fail at. That's why I had to point out that I didn't read his column until after I made my predictions, because I knew that he and I would say similar things and in a similar way.
I was already wrong about Orlando too. They're lucky Glen Davis just loves the spotlight, because they wouldn't have won without him. Still think Pacers are going to take the series, unless of course the Basketball Gods hate Orlando so much they decide to let them win the first round and get all their hopes up about it inspiring Howard to stay.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - questra - 04-29-2012 05:06 AM
Will be waiting to watch the highlights of the Thunder game. Anyone notice the latest nba.com videos are a bit slow in getting updated now?
Lebron's playing crazy well this season and should be named MVP too - the only question mark remains whether he has the mental toughness to come through in the clutch in a long series. A 7 game series against chiseled veterans like Boston should tell
I love writing too and am considering pursuing it further. A huge fan of Bill Simmons and his style too. What you said about his ability to ramble and go off on tangents without getting boring is spot on. They're amazingly witty and humorous. But yeah, your writing is pretty good too man.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-29-2012 05:11 AM
How about we do a 30 day writing challenge sometime later this year? I have a blog that I don't update enough and a million things I've been meaning to write about forever. Maybe when the NBA season is over. There's also National Novel Writing Month in November.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - questra - 04-29-2012 05:19 AM
Let me know when and I'm in
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-29-2012 07:17 AM
Just to get things back to BBall and to remind myself why Rondo is my favourite player and how I should be infinitely grateful they never traded him and now probably never will.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 04-29-2012 10:37 AM
Tim you'd probably enjoy this Rondo article: http://nbaplaybook.com/2012/04/11/rajon-rondo-and-demise-of-the-distributor/ I've been a point guard pretty much any level I've played basketball (which pretty much tops out at JV and decent rec league, to be honest), and I've always enjoyed how Rondo creates passing angles without being a shooting threat at all. Guys like Chris Paul and Steve Nash can get great angles cause they're such shooting threats, but no one is closing out on Rondo like that, he pretty much has to use his speed and creativity to set up good looks for his teammates.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-29-2012 10:53 AM
Thanks for the link, was very interesting. I love watching Rondo play, because no matter what he's doing it's interesting, even if it doesn't look spectacular. His basketball brain is just different to everyone else in the league. He goes for really flashy stuff, and sometimes it doesn't work out, but when it does it looks amazing. And yet his game is in no way just flash.
Fixed that link to the Rondo vid above btw.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Tim - 04-30-2012 04:20 AM
So... who saw the Clippers vs. Grizzlies game? WHOA.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - IdEngager - 04-30-2012 04:49 AM
I was watching that... Reggie Evans can pretty much have my babies right now. What a handsome, handsome man.
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - Creatine Dreams - 04-30-2012 07:22 AM
RE: Any basketball fans on here? - questra - 04-30-2012 03:59 PM
Didn't catch the Clippers vs Grizzlies game but read all about it and saw the highlights. That's a pretty huge turnaround!
I wonder if Memphis can recover...
Creatine - I'm thinking if Bynum stays focused and engaged and doesn't do any of that boneheaded stuff we actually might have a chance...