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The No-More-Porn Thread - Mark - 12-18-2011 11:13 PM
Yeah, I get insomnia whenever I'm particularly stressed or overworked. If you've been really busy lately, that may have more to do with it.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 12-18-2011 11:15 PM
Halo Effect Wrote:crazyhorse,
Maybe you just fucked up your sleep schedule and you need to focus on getting a proper rythm going, whether you're watching porn or not. I mean, if I go to bed at 9 PM, I will wake up at like 12 or 1 AM with new energy. That's because I'm used to going to bed around midnight or later, so going to bed a few hours earlier messes everything up. Although, if you're full of energy despite little sleep, then who cares.
It's weird actually I always sleep in short cycles. So f.e. I have worked hard on an assignment and I didn't get much sleep. The next I go to bed earlier around 21 p.m. and I woke up 4 hours later. Boy I've had days where I've had an average of 4 hours of sleep for 2 days.
Insomnia is definetly one of the withdrawal symptomps haha. For others it's sleeping 12 hours in a row. That's because your nervous system is rewiring itself.
A lot of people seem to think that I do this on purpose, but it's not. I just wake up
. We'll see what will happen. I'm now going to sleep and my alarm clock is set at 6 a.m.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Edmond Dantès - 12-18-2011 11:55 PM
Can't sleep as well...I am confident that I'll make this week without P or O. Why?
Because I'm awesome
Seriously it feels like my hormone household isn't out of balance anymore, but like Mark said, I would fuck now nearly any girl, lol. Horniness,but no libido sucks a lot, hombres. But let's keep going, seems to be so that now starts the interesting phase of our challenge.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Edmond Dantès - 12-19-2011 04:29 PM
[video=youtube;LVRAmcRJ41g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVRAmcRJ41g[/video]
I know I'm a bad person
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 12-19-2011 05:47 PM
I'm flatlining baby, you won't pursue me
The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 12-19-2011 06:44 PM
[ATTACH=CONFIG]9[/ATTACH]
You can't get to me suckaaah.
In related news, I have bad cravings. I really need some distraction or something.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Alvar - 12-20-2011 12:02 AM
I'm glad I didn't install K9
The No-More-Porn Thread - Alvar - 12-25-2011 01:09 AM
Mark posted this on facebook... Who wants to take the trophy from this guys hands?
[video=youtube;SNH5EUw7gxk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNH5EUw7gxk[/video]
The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 12-25-2011 01:44 PM
How is everybody doing with the challenge?
I'm on day 29 now I think. Not getting laid the last two weeks made things extra difficult. I found out that some sites where you can chat with cams weren't blocked by the porn blocker, so I spent days kind of jerking off and hoping some girl would show her boobs (saw a few lol). Then I found out that photography/art with stunning naked women is not always blocked by the porn blocker either... I've seriously spent like 20 hours watching that stuff and jerking off this last week. But WITHOUT coming. Also, didn't watch anything resembling "porn". No sex, no hardcore stuff. I've now blocked all those sites I spent time on with the porn blocker as well.
It's insane how strong my urge to watch naked women is. I would take any excuse to google "perfect ass" or what not. Which brings up surprisingly hot pictures even with strong filters... Pretty proud of myself that I haven't watched anything more than just nudity. But I do feel weak and loser-ish after just watching women and jerking off for hours in stead of doing useful stuff.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 12-25-2011 01:57 PM
haha the world chamion of masturbation, 9 hours and 58 minutes! Can you imagine what would happen if this guy would stop watching porn? The ammount of withdrawal symtomps that he would experience would be HUGE!
My insomnia has been cured. Thank God! This was followed by me sleeping from 3 a.m. till 5 p.m., in one row. Yes I still don't know how this was possible!
I had a small porn slip yesterday, where I watched porn for 10 minutes. This was all ready totally different from the hours of clicking and viewing it. I'm still working on my abstinence muscle, my personal record is 5 days. But I'm gettting there.
I wrote a summary from where I originally started out to where I am now. This is already a huge improvement. So I think I'll do fine.
A summary so far
- normally I would masturbate to porn at least once a day, sometimes twice. And if I couldn't get to sleep this number could go up to 4
times in a couple of hours. These session could easily last a long time.
- So far I havn't watched porn for at least 40 days. Yesterday there was a small slip-up. I think it lasted 10 minutes, but this was already
different from the hours of watching porn. Always clicking to find something new.
- My abstinence record for masturbation is now 5 days. Given my original starting point, this is already a huge improvement. But I would like
to take this further. I still havn't reached my original goal of two weeks without orgasm.
steps I'm going to take
- ask my brother and my dad to install paswords on their computers. This is how the porn slip happenned last night. Came home from a
party and I was a little bit drunk, couldn't get to sleep. This is always my pattern. If I can't get to sleep, I'm in danger. I must really be
prepared for these moments.
- I also now take sleep aids.This will help to prevent the slip-off's when i can't get to sleep. The reason for this is also that I now get up
at 6 a.m. and I'm not really adjusted to this rythm yet. F.E. sometimes I can be sleepy when I decide to go to bed, but a couple of
minutes later I can start to feel "energized". Sleep aids prevent this.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Mark - 12-25-2011 03:15 PM
I watched porn the other day. Didn't masturbate to it, but watched it. I was surprised to my reaction to it.
1. I was far more interested in just watching really hot girls get naked.
2. The sex annoyed me a bit, as it interfered with #1. It also annoyed me that it was them having sex and not me.
3. Hardcore sex just seemed unnecessary and very unattractive. Which is interesting because this is mostly what I used to watch.
I don't know if that's technically "breaking the rules" or not. But I didn't jerk off to it, so I'm not counting it. There are clearly some major mental shifts that have happened in me though. I still find myself fantasizing about girls and sex a lot throughout the day, but it feels normal now.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 12-25-2011 03:34 PM
Mark Wrote:I watched porn the other day. Didn't masturbate to it, but watched it. I was surprised to my reaction to it.
1. I was far more interested in just watching really hot girls get naked.
2. The sex annoyed me a bit, as it interfered with #1. It also annoyed me that it was them having sex and not me.
3. Hardcore sex just seemed unnecessary and very unattractive. Which is interesting because this is mostly what I used to watch.
I don't know if that's technically "breaking the rules" or not. But I didn't jerk off to it, so I'm not counting it. There are clearly some major mental shifts that have happened in me though. I still find myself fantasizing about girls and sex a lot throughout the day, but it feels normal now.
I also found that it wasn't as interesting as it was before. I stopped after 10 minutes! Normally porn session last a whole lot longer. I only watched girls who were alone, the other types I couldn't stand. Interesting! At the end I kept thinking to myself "why am I doing this, it so empty".
Now I will have to find a clever way in order to install a password on those other pc's. LOL.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 12-25-2011 06:03 PM
Mark, I have the exact same thing. I watched a few naked insanely hot beautiful women, but I feel no desire at all to see fake, rough, gaping, triple penetration sort of vids that I would usually see.
I do fantasize about doing porn-like things to real girls I'm dating though. That feels different. Although I do catch myself thinking occasionally "wow.. When I'll have sex next time I will see an actual naked girl right in front of me and I can do what I want! Never realized how awesome that is.
"
The No-More-Porn Thread - EppsMJ - 12-25-2011 06:12 PM
Ok... I'm going to get on the wagon -- just installed a site blocker and blocked everything.
But playboy.com doesn't count as porn, right?
The No-More-Porn Thread - NakedAndFamous - 12-25-2011 10:46 PM
Hmm, its really strange atm. I'm around Day 30 now. Never watched porn, and tbh there is no real desire to. I didn't even install a blocker.
Day 21 was the first and only time i masturbated since the start of the challenge, yesterday i had my first wet dream lol. Was a little bit strange since i just woke up and didn't even fantasize in my sleep.. strangely, my libido still hasn't come back during the day.
The No-More-Porn Thread - TexasFan - 12-26-2011 10:00 AM
Ok I might be super late on this but I am totally joining this..
Nt gonna lie. I just wanked off right before registering to the forums so count this as hour one lol
I started masturbating and watching porn since I was really young. Probably around 12 or 13 I think. I am 22 now and I think my best record without porn or masturbation in those 10 some years is probably a week and a half. So that means I have not survived without porn for more than a weeks a half in those 10 years.
I am not a needy sex crazed person in real life. I have tons of female friends that I don't even feel true need to sleep with to be honest because I feel that having female friends is awesome and these girls trust me more than other guys. So clearly I believe I have some kind of addiction problem. I have tried to quit porn in the past but it has failed a bit. But despite only quitting porn/masturbation for just a few days I have noticed my confidence level to increase quite a bit. I am less depressed, sad and way more social and have less anxiety in general. So if only quitting it for a few days means having that much change than I don't know how much more confident I will be after 60 days and yes I am determined to last those 60 days.
So let's do this!!!
The No-More-Porn Thread - Arikado - 12-28-2011 09:52 PM
I'm in.
I've been pretty addicted to Internet porn, since I was 12. Back when I lived with my mom I'd jerk it at least once a day, usually more. But since I moved into my own place, and didn't bother getting Internet, I've found myself viewing porn less and less. And I usually jerk it one day a week (although several times in that day). So honestly, I'm proud that I've gotten that far at all, because it was KILLING my dating life. I'm more more confident, and less anxious now. I've even had wet dreams this year, for the first time ever (they were awesome, btw). The most I've ever gone was 12 days without masturbation.
Luckily, I inherited my mom's unique ability to not get addicted to things. Physically, I don't get addicted to things as easily as others (drugs, food, blah blah). My mom's smoked a cigarette a week since God-knows-when, and never seems to get addicted.
Anyhow, enough blabbering. It's been since the 24th that I jerked it to anything (pictures, no less). Feeling pretty lethargic, but I'm learning that this is normal, and that it will pass.
I had a SLIGHT porn-related fantasy pop into my head that started to drive me nuts, but I reminded myself that it wasn't me, it was just dopamine. Then it went away.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Traindom - 12-28-2011 10:23 PM
I remember I stopped masturbating and looking at porn a while back for a few weeks. I was surprised with how my interactions at school went. I didn't masturbate or look at porn mainly because of time issues. I was literally too busy to masturbate. It was the furthest thing on my mind. I felt like a burden had been lifted off my shoulders. My conversations with women weren't nearly as taxing as they had been before. I didn't think about them as much sexually as I usually did. I was able to have more enjoyable conversations with women overall. It was like this cool, passive feeling had flown into me. It might have been from my more methodical side from all the work I had been dealing with, but I'm still perplexed. Now I've decided to join in on this challenge starting today and see if I can replicate the results.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Heisenberg - 12-29-2011 01:57 AM
Traindom Wrote:I remember I stopped masturbating and looking at porn a while back for a few weeks. I was surprised with how my interactions at school went. I didn't masturbate or look at porn mainly because of time issues. I was literally too busy to masturbate. It was the furthest thing on my mind. I felt like a burden had been lifted off my shoulders. My conversations with women weren't nearly as taxing as they had been before. I didn't think about them as much sexually as I usually did. I was able to have more enjoyable conversations with women overall. It was like this cool, passive feeling had flown into me. It might have been from my more methodical side from all the work I had been dealing with, but I'm still perplexed. Now I've decided to join in on this challenge starting today and see if I can replicate the results.
That cool, passive feeling is definitely part of what I'm experiencing.
I'm doing much more work as well, with almost no reluctance even for menial tasks; physical or mental. It may be due to other factors in my life, but this challenge has definitely contributed significantly.
I don't have the lost libido thing at all. I'm ready to go every moment. It's a passive background thing. Like a lion waiting patiently in the brush for a zebra to stroll by. Although occasionally it does get restless, I find intense physical or mental activity a good channel for its energy.
I'm at day 32. No porn, no masturbating, and trying to keep fantasizing to a minimum.
I've noticed I am hugely more physically attracted to, and generally admire women in real life.
I Hesitate to post updates since I don't think I have much meaningful to contribute. I don't think about it often and find it hard to communicate, as it's almost completely an emotional thing. It's very hard to isolate the effects from other changes in my life as well. It's almost like you are polarized with this force, like you've been infused with strength or something.../sigh, hard to explain.
Anyhow: I'm still going strong.
Stay solid comrades.
"The price of discipline is always better than the pain of regret"
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 12-29-2011 05:55 AM
My former no-orgasm record was 5 days. But now I feel like I'm going to smash that.
Normally I would watch porn at least once a day and sometimes 4-5 times if I couldn't get to sleep. So yeah, I watched that stuff pretty hard! LOL. Socially I was a very confident person, but sexually I was a wrack.
My plan is to go 2 weeks without orgasm, maybe even longer. They say that this is necessary to help reboot your brain, if it was changed by watching too much porn. Porn changes your brain by making everyday stimuli (friends, a cute girl) look more boring. This may seem cynical but there is no way that one women can compete with porn. Watching 300 vagina's=very addictive. I'm saying this with the most respect for women! This is also the reason why I wanted to ban it out of my life.
For me the first 4 days I was really agressive and competitive, after that I went into a flatline (no libido). I'm now going to focus on quitting orgasm for a while in order to speed this process up.
If you think this is correlated to levels of testosterone, it's not! You always here this on pick up forums. I will increase my testosterone by abstination from masturbation, but it doesn't work that way. There were some bodybuilders on the reuniting forum who were only going to watch porn, but not jerk of to it. It didn't feel any different. There are also studies were they gave porn addicts extra testosterone, but it didn't change their perception towards women.
For interesting research see below
http://yourbrainonporn.com/search/node/testosterone
The No-More-Porn Thread - Mark - 12-29-2011 06:53 AM
The last week or so I've been jerking it 1-3 times a day -- the most I've masturbated since I was a teenager. No porn, just my imagination, and often I get off within 60 seconds. My libido has turned into a fucking monster, and it doesn't seem to matter how much I orgasm.
You know, I had always wondered if I was a person with a particularly high sex drive because I spent so much effort on pick up (Napoleon Hill talks about how many highly ambitious people have extremely high sex drives as well), but I always had a hard time justifying it because I never seemed to get nearly as excited about sex as other guys. Well, these days I feel like I'm 16 all over again. I want to fuck every girl I meet who's even remotely cute. I'm jerking off constantly. I'm constantly fantasizing about different situations. It's great.
I still haven't been out hitting on new girls yet. I've just been shacking up with old FB's and FWB's the past month wherever I've been. But tomorrow and over New Year's I'll be hitting on new girls for the first time in over a month (since I started the challenge), so we'll see what happens. I have to admit, that previously, I always kind of had a detachment to hotness and sexuality that I feel like I used as an asset to not be too needy when I hit on girls. Like if I hit on a super hot girl, it was never difficult for me to not really care if she didn't like me. But given how ridiculously horny I've been lately, it'll probably take a little calibrating to handle my new level of sexual desire.
Hopefully once I get a grasp of it, it'll inspire a lot more aggression (always been the weakest aspect of my game) and get me some awesome results.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Mark - 12-29-2011 06:56 AM
P.S.: Last night I had a very vivid dream that I became a male porn actor and was snorting tons of cocaine between scenes. And every scene that went by, they'd make me fuck an even uglier girl, but I didn't care because I always wanted more cocaine. At one point I even told one of the girls as I was fucking her, "I'm not allowed to watch porn." She replied, "It's OK, you're making porn, not watching it."
I'm by no means a regular drug user. I hate cocaine. Nor do I have any desire to be a porn star. But I seriously think this thread, and the neuroenhancer thread (cocaine is a very strong stimulant) influenced my sub-conscious interpretation of its dopamine drought from lack of porn use recently. The result was my extreme yet cliche-ridden dream (my dreams tend to be pretty tame as well).
The No-More-Porn Thread - Brian - 12-29-2011 08:47 AM
ROFL.
Lately, after whenever i park my car, i'm always SUPER careful walking around the grass area so i wont step into dog poop. Guess what happen..i dream of myself stepping into dog's poop. Fucking subconscious is pretty annoying sometime.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Alvar - 12-29-2011 11:00 AM
Lol, Mark you wouldn't be able to "appreciate" your own movies
After 5 weeks without an orgasm and around 2 months without jerking I gave in last Sunday. It felt pretty good and I used the experience to fuel my motivation to stay away from porn and keep on my masturbation diet.
I was afraid that it could lower my motivation to meet girls but that night I had a great time in the bar with a gorgeous flight attendant. I was afraid that going through a dry spell could have a negative effect on me but I've lately meet some of the hottest chicks I've ever dated - just haven't been able to seal the deal. I could have scored some easy lays but I kind of passed on the not so fit chicks and haven't had much interest in pursuing women for sex sake.
The No-More-Porn Thread - TexasFan - 12-29-2011 07:19 PM
It's been three days for me and I'm already feeling kinda miserable. I was a little more energetic than normal yesterday but today I feel a little down. Don't know why. I'm horny and the thought of watching and jacking off is pretty tempting. But I'm sticking with this till the end. This is my first time ever doing something like this and I feel like all the laziness/procrastination that I've done though out all my life has been to jacking off on a regular basis. I hope this is gonna help.