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RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - EricR - 07-20-2012 10:47 PM
Hello folks. First time poster here. I discovered this site by sheer chance and find its contents quite interesting. I'm very intrigued by this "no porn" challenge. Not sure if I can call myself a porn addict or not, but it's true that:
1) I watch a lot of porn (just softcore/lesbian vanilla porn, no hardcore stuff) and masturbate a lot.
2) I suffer from extreme shyness and avoidant personality disorder, as a result my social, dating and sex skills truly are pathetic and was never able to meet (let alone seduce) a suitable partner.
Although I've been a social outcast since my teen years (well before I had a high-speed Internet connection and therefore lots of porn available 24/7) I'd like to find out if these two are related so I'm in for the challenge. Four days so far, no effects whatsoever. Stay tuned for updates.
Cheers,
Eric.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - ccurtis189 - 07-21-2012 03:43 PM
Hey guys, so I've been looking at pornography for over 10 years total now, (but I've been looking at hardcore for probably 5), which may have stunted my social life as I've had a high-speed internet connection since I was 11 and I was inclined to play MMO's rather than go out and play. I read a lot of the stuff on yourbrainonporn so I thought I would give it a shot. I'm on day 11 so far and the thoughts of watching my favorite videos are occurring more frequently now. But I'm not sure if it's the porn that's causing my problem. One of the pages on that site said that a good test would be if you can masturbate perfectly fine without stimulation, which I can, and then it also said if you're having trouble getting aroused with a person, then it's anxiety-induced. Which I have had that problem in the past before, I was unable to get aroused due to nervousness, probably due to anxiety and self-esteem issues. I really do want to make a change though because I'm 22 years old and have had little female contact. As a guy who gets little to no action though, I don't even know if I'll see the benefits because there may be no one real to try it with in the near future, and then I'll just be alone and sexually frustrated.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - freiheitlich - 07-21-2012 07:56 PM
I think no masturbation can not be the solution. Because what you not use, you lose. I think masturbation 2x per week is useful for the game performence.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - BudCrow - 07-21-2012 10:25 PM
Think it's been about a month now! Feel great-it's really working. I just got a date from Facebook! I didn't even have to go out.
Apart from rock hard erections and getting laid I've been mega productive. I'm properly starting my own company working from 5-10 non stop. I don't think I could have done that before. I can concentrate and focus at last!
I can't recommend this enough. Thank-you to the OP
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - QuittingTime - 07-22-2012 01:44 PM
Ugh.
Day 8. Still managing but it's getting more difficult each day. Still, I come on here to post and it seems to almost immediately make it easier, so at least there's that.
Glad you guys are here, anyway. Let's keep doing it one day at a time.
-Q
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Traindom - 07-22-2012 04:37 PM
Are you able to keep busy, QuittingTime? Did you find your potential triggers? I find that writing about potential triggers helps you realize when you're in danger of relapsing. Unless it brings out your urges. In that case, just ignore this piece of advice, haha. Good to see you've made it to eight days!
I've been at it for about a month now. I did have one minor relapse, but I just learnt from it and decided NOT to do it again in that same day. I'm so glad I just pushed ahead. I feel that a minor relapse is wayyy easier to get over than a major relapse. So if anyone has a minor relapse, don't binge! Just keep on trucking. You'll get over the icky feelings in a day or so.
For those that haven't relapsed, don't take this as an excuse to relapse!! The more you consciously suppress your addiction, the better capable you will be of dealing with these relapses. Don't sweet talk yourself. Just shut off that voice inside your head.
I find that an all-or-nothing mentality can be really counterproductive. I was even slightly turned off from relapsing in that particular way, so it's a win-win situation. I haven't felt any more urges that I can't suppress. I am finding it easier and easier to push through.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - WorldWide - 07-23-2012 07:16 AM
I actually found the postmasculine forums from the NoFap reddit! Only recently though.
Im on Day 7, i didn't think id noticed anything till last night something weird happened, i had the most vivid sex dream i've ever had. I dreamed i had my face in some chicks box and i woke up and i was licking my pillow, man it was so weird. Id also had beers that night so that might have something to do with it, on a side note has anyone noticed how much stronger the urges to fap are when your hungover? First time i struggled was today!
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - scragglefish - 07-23-2012 08:28 AM
are you guys cutting out masturbation as well as porn? what's the difference?
I find I have no problem cutting out porn... but if I don't jack off I go insane.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - rxmohinder - 07-23-2012 12:43 PM
(07-20-2012 01:06 PM)QuittingTime Wrote:(07-19-2012 09:13 PM)rxmohinder Wrote: I'm not having any issue with erections, but I've felt for a while that this is something I need to do. Quick question, though, and maybe this is answered earlier. Should I cut out sexting? Obviously they're real girls, but should it all go?
There are pros and cons to either approach, and I would say it depends largely on the nature of your sexting and the level of your problem with porn. If you are trying to get over a really thorough addiction then I believe the literature suggests all forms of masturbation should go; in which case, I can only see sexting as a cruel enticement to something you aren't going to be able to do.
Also, I'm not terribly familiar with the activity, so I don't know if you're talking about sexting lots of random girls you don't know (very well), or just one who you are dating. If it is the former, I highly encourage cutting it out completely as it follows a very similar pattern to porn in terms of the addiction cycle of "novelty." Mammal brains can't handle that much possibility of novelty without getting addicted; if you try to use the sexting as a replacement for porn you'll probably wind up addicted to it, instead, making the likelihood of relapse incredibly high.
That all being said, if you have one committed partner, and sexting is part of your foreplay, that might be acceptable. In this case I would highly encourage you to discuss the issue with the girl in question, if possible.
Hope that makes sense. Happy to keep working this out with you; we all have to do what we can to help each other through this.
(Day 6....last night was one of the toughest yet, but I got through it and am continuously reinvigorated by the feeling of being in control of my sex drive)
-Q
Oof, it's mostly with the exgirlfriend, and probably something I should cut out regardless. But that's a conversation for another area of the forum. As I was reading what you wrote, I instantly knew I shouldn't be sexting her at all. Thanks.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - QuittingTime - 07-23-2012 01:07 PM
(07-23-2012 12:43 PM)rxmohinder Wrote: Oof, it's mostly with the exgirlfriend, and probably something I should cut out regardless. But that's a conversation for another area of the forum. As I was reading what you wrote, I instantly knew I shouldn't be sexting her at all. Thanks.
Gotcha. No worries, then, just glad you were able to think through it, that's what we're here for. Keep it up sir!
@ScraggleFish: Some of us are cutting out masturbation as part of a complete addiction detox. Others are cutting it out as part of a discipline exercise, just to sort of "prove we have the power." The less things you feel like you /have/ to do in life, the stronger you are. Whether or not you are interested is up to you; no judgment either way. But if you are addicted to pornography, cutting out masturbation for at least the detox period (60-90 days) may be necessary.
@TrainDom: Yes, I am working very hard at keeping busy and pushing through. I am also working at keeping track of my triggers....some are actually fairly disturbing, which is giving me quite a lot to think about. Others are really mundane and frustrating (seeing someone pretend to wield a lightsaber in a phallic manner...)
Your note about not getting discouraged in the event of a minor relapse is interesting. You quite rightly capture the feeling of total shame ("icky feeling") as being a serious demotivator...it's a vicious cycle, you slip up a little and start to feel like you can't possibly succeed and so give in to that voice that goes "you've already lost, why not give in completely..." But of course, that voice wouldn't be there if you actually HAD lost. So kudos to you for resisting and keep on keeping-on.
Day 9 now. Hope to keep busy all day long.
-Q
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Traindom - 07-23-2012 05:13 PM
Good to hear, QuittingTime. Yeah, I tend to get turned on by mundane stuff as well. It usually involves girls, so I guess it's better than the freaky stuff I would look for in the past. I'm trying to not think about the freaky stuff because it comes back easily. I'm trying to weed out those turn-ons and see which ones are the normal ones in the long run.
Thanks, QuittingTime. I remember thinking about how far I had come and how I wouldn't ever go back to what I had before and lose all my progress. That was a serious turn-off. I had come face to face with that vicious cycle before. It was easier to succumb to it when I had only gone clean for a day. Now that I've been at it for weeks, I am stronger and can overpower it.
Nine days strong, woot! The more you progress, the more strength you gain. Being nine days clean is great! You should be proud of how long you've come. Recognize your progress so that it doesn't seem like nothing has changed. Less reason to relapse. Keep on, QuittingTime.
(07-23-2012 08:28 AM)scragglefish Wrote: are you guys cutting out masturbation as well as porn? what's the difference?
I find I have no problem cutting out porn... but if I don't jack off I go insane.
I tried to only cut off porn before, but the ties between the masturbation and the porn were stronger than I thought. I would start fantasizing about one girl and finish with another. I would cycle through girls in my head akin to how I would scour the internet for more and more girls. So I was spinning my wheels.
In the end, I just had to cut it all out. It was all too tangled up for me to attempt to cut out only porn. I find that it's easier to recover if you just remove all things connected to the addiction. For me that would be the porn, masturbation, and fantasies.
It's easier to combat the urges when you stifle every single thing that enables them, masturbation included. For me, keeping masturbation was like letting the door open a crack, enough for the urges to creep in through.
I'd say that if you can effectively overcome the addiction to novelty (cycling porn and fantasies), then go for it. But if you cycle fantasies like I would, then I'd say cutting masturbation out is the better thing to do.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - wavering_radiant - 07-24-2012 05:23 PM
So I had relapsed for the past couple of weeks, so I am going to start over. I'm going to stay away from porn completely and keep the fapping down to 1-2x a week. I think where I've been in the middle of a move, I've had a very irregular schedule and have had a hard time planning my schedule so that I can stay away from my computer more.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - barney stintson - 07-24-2012 06:31 PM
hit day 14 today.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - luda - 07-24-2012 10:01 PM
I have failed this challenge more times than I can remember. My failure was mostly attributed to the fact that I always had porn somewhere. Whether it was my laptop, computer or cellphone. So on days where I lacked willpower, the porn was always there to jerk off to. So I'm trying this challenge again except this time I have removed all my porn and it was hard removing my entire stash but it had to be done. I'm trying to create a environment which will lead to success. But man 60 days is a long time but I can do it
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - whitedevil16 - 07-24-2012 11:51 PM
Hi there boys. Ive been watching porn since the age of thirteen. I would masterbate to porn occasionally until I hit high school. In Highschool I would fap once a day regularly. The porn addiction became worse and worse. more hardcore, more images, more degrading stuff. Since the beginning of grade 12 I've been trying to get rid of porn. Its tough. I always go back to it and don't have the will to stop myself usually. but I'm going to try this 60 day deal and never watch it again. like the start of the forum said maybe whacking it without porn is the way to do it. Thanks!
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Thenewguy - 07-25-2012 08:43 AM
So something weird is happening you guys.
Ok, I'm about on day 35 of the challenge... And it's been fucking great. the first 2 weeks, I didn't notice anything different. But as soon as the third week it, I noticed something... something primal growing within me. I just have intense sexual urges coming out left and right toward women I see. I noticed I started getting more confident simply because of my sexuality and expressing it. And women like it too. I am honestly glad I did this and the sexual confidence program.
However for the past 2-3 days or so. I noticed my libido went SIGNIFICANTLY down. Like even below normal when I did watch porn. I would look at sexy girls now, and feel absolutely nothing, and no urge to talk to them, simply because I don't have the "urge" to. I went on a date today, and honestly felt no urge to flirt simply because I wasn't in the mood, not even my emotional mood, but my sexual mood. I can tell this lack of sexual urge affecting my entire conversation. Like I could hold one due to sheer skill, but I wasn't truly motivated to really just be my usual eccentric self.
Is this just a phase or did I break something inside me? lol.
(07-24-2012 10:01 PM)luda Wrote: I have failed this challenge more times than I can remember. My failure was mostly attributed to the fact that I always had porn somewhere. Whether it was my laptop, computer or cellphone. So on days where I lacked willpower, the porn was always there to jerk off to. So I'm trying this challenge again except this time I have removed all my porn and it was hard removing my entire stash but it had to be done. I'm trying to create a environment which will lead to success. But man 60 days is a long time but I can do it
I had the same problem man. Porn stash and everything. You gotta keep yourself busy during the day. I know whenever I was bored, I would masturbate simply because it passed the time.
Use that time you could be masturbating to work towards real women, study business, anything to better you.
Also if you go out a lot and are never in your home. It leaves less time for you to masturbate.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - QuittingTime - 07-25-2012 01:08 PM
Hmm. Luda, definitely invest in a porn-blocker if you're serious about this. You'll have to spend around $30 and make sure to put this site and all your usuals (facebook, email, dating sites or whatever) on the "white list" because the real blockers are SUPER aggressive. I struggled with getting a blocker for a long time because I didn't want to feel "weak" but, then I realized, what was more pathetic-sounding than coming up with excuses not to do something that would actually make my life better?
And to Thenewguy, keep track of what's going on with your desire levels, and most importantly, decide for yourself whether or not it is a problem. I recommend asking tough questions about the nature of your desire itself, as everyone's is a little different; it could be that there is some kind of "weakening" to your libido going on, or it could be that your libido simply isn't bothering to work itself up over every random girl because some part of you has grown strong enough to resist that urge. Or it could be something else entirely that only someone who knows you really well would be able to fathom. My point is, don't start panicking yet, just keep watching what's going on and note possible variables in the situation.
By way of example, I am actually /hoping/ to get to the point you are at currently. I find the animal drive to be with attractive women very distracting; personally, I have things I would rather be doing than spending time with/on a person just because I find her attractive. That, of course, is just me, and I know it isn't a popular or common opinion. But my point is that your libido level isn't inherently what matters as much as whether or not it is causing you distress.
If you find it really is causing you distress, all I can really do is encourage you not to relapse - my best guess is that you are just going through a phase of your detox. The brain is an amazingly resilient thing, so if you desire it enough and utilize the resources available, you'll get through one way or another.
Day 11 for me now of no porn, no masturbation, no fantasy. Keeping busy is absolutely the key to success here; idle minds are the angry inner pornographer's canvas. At least the deep-in-my-chest and pit-of-my-stomach ache is starting to die down; now it's just a dull mental scratch. Onward!
-Q
Also, whitedevil, if you are really addicted to porn, you may be in trouble if you don't also give up masturabation for a 60-90 day period. Check out yourbrainonporn.com to see if it makes sense to you. I know it is incredibly difficult but when you are addicted to porn, masturbation is inherently tied to the porn circuits; you aren't really beating the addiction that way, just sort of putting it into a catnap. Even fantasizing about porn has the same problem. And, I for one know that it can be extremely difficult to go from thinking about porn while masturbating to thinking about anything else; so in that sense, you are also doing yourself a favor by taking a break from masturbating because it gives your brain time to clear out the unwanted images and to allow more reasonable ones (i.e. sex that you can feel good about) to propagate.
The keys to success are to keep busy and to check in on the forum any time you are struggling; remember you're not alone and that we are all in this together. Also, if you have anyone you can trust to discuss this issue with, it is extremely helpful to have a person in your life to support you through this (I have my roomie, for example). Onward!
-Q
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Traindom - 07-25-2012 03:37 PM
I really admire your commitment, QuittingTime. You're really taking charge here! It's always nice to see camaraderie. Keep it up!
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Jay - 07-25-2012 03:46 PM
Alright guys, going to give this a shot. I did the no porn thing for about a month last fall and it really improved my motivation and confidence. It didn't just improve my drive to meet girls, it also improved my drive in business and life in general. I got a bit down and lazy over the winter and started up the porn and MB again. Its gotten to the point where I'll do it a few times a day sometimes, and that's cutting into my time to build my business and the lifestyle that I want. So, I'm going to give it a shot again. 3 months starting today of no porn and no masturbation, that means I'll finish on Oct 25.
To any guys trying this, what I realized from last time I did it is that you must identify your triggers. For me, that's being lazy/bored/tired in the morning or evening and having a computer or ipad accessible in my bedroom. So, no farting around on the internet before or after bed for me (this is probably a good thing anyway since 1. I'll be more productive and 2. computer use before bed contributes to bad sleep).
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - EvoNow - 07-25-2012 09:34 PM
Hey guys,
Stumbled on this thread by accident and so glad I did. I am in my mid-thirties and have had a porn problem since age 18 when my parents got internet service. Softcore spiraled to the wild stuff FAST - to the point where I was even getting ultra hardcore DVDs delivered to my parent's house (luckily I got home before them to get the mail that day!)
I had a GF around age 18 and she wanted to fuck - but I couldn't get it up. We broke up soon after because of this and I remained a virgin up until age 22 or so when I discovered viagra.
Problem: Viagra STILL didn't always work. I was so accustomed to porn by then that that along with not having real sex made it tough for me to get wood even WITH viagra. I can remember popping 50 MG before a girl came over then, after NOT getting an erection, running into the bathroom and FRANTICALLY chewing up the other half of the 100 MG pill... PRAYING I would finally get a boner.
It didn't always work.
Finally after a year or so of mishaps (watching porn the whole time and kind of knowing the ED connection was there, but ignoring it), I got to the point where I could successfully fuck w Viagra, almost every time.
Around 2008 something interesting happened - I got the idea that I could, via craigslist, find real girls who would want to act out my crazy porn fantasies. I started posting ads, but I was too shy/ashamed to actually carry it out.
So, I became a "pic collector". I would get more excited my just EMAILING with these girls about doing wild stuff than I would ever get doing regular things with a real live girl. Later, I was able to convince a fair amount of the real girls I hooked up with to do some crazy stuff in the bedroom, but now that I think about it, I was still MORE excited about the emails! I'd make a whole night of emailing back and forth with these girls. I felt like such a dick for leading them on, knowing I would never really meet up with them.
Fortunately in the meantime I was having a good amount of regular sex and enjoying it. I was using viagra every time and only cumming about 1/4 of the time, but that was fine with me - I told myself as long as regular sex was enjoyable for me, I didn't have a problem. I knew I had a viagra crutch but figured I would kick that once I had a steady GF to practice with.
Then one night I was emailing with a girl from craigslist, and I started to feel really guilty for leading her on - she really needed the money. Finally I said what the heck - I had her come over to act out one of my crazy fantasies. That was the start of that.
Around the same time I started dating a girl long distance. Sex was great for us at first, but I found myself quickly losing interest in sex with her, despite her being hot AND me only seeing her once a month or so. Normally in that scenario I'd think a guy would be FRENZIED to fuck her when he saw her, but I didn't care. Why? Because by this time I was meeting up with at least one girl from craigslist in between every time I saw her, and I'd fap it thinking about what I did with her instead regular sex or the girl I was dating.
Then one day, the long distance girl who I thought I'd be moving out of state for and starting a future with - DUMPED ME. The only reason I can come up with to this day is because she picked up on my sexual disinterest.
When I realized this, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I made a vow right there to stop watching the porn and stop with the craigslist ads for 60 days (I was still allowed to fap and watch regular porn.)
I cracked after Day 21 or so and started reading my old email exchanges with girls. Soon I was posting ads and meeting up with them again (I estimate I've spent like $6000 doing this in the last year - a lot of money for me).
That was in December. I've made no attempts to kick the habit again, my excuse being I will wait until I have a new GF, then stop.
But then yesterday I had a girl over and I couldn't cum with her, and she made kind of a big deal about it. Then randomly, I was on a non-porn website later and came across an ad for a program called "Overcome Pornography". I bought it but the instructional videos were boring. I emailed the creator to see if he did private coaching. Then I FAPPED TO HARDCORE PORN. I felt like such a loser after the events of the day, and told myself I would talk to the therapist the next day and it would be my last time.
Then, by another random chance, I had bookmark'd Mark Mason's article on Quitting Your Job and traveling the world. I went to read it and saw on the sidebar the article link, "Pornography Can Ruin Your Sex Life".
I clicked on it, discovered this thread, and the rest is going to be history. I'd be crazy to ignore all of these signs.
It's time to get this handled, for good.
Last night before I went to bed I did something I had done before without success - deleted all of my porn videos. But just now I did something I have never done - deleted all of the email convos I'd had with girls off craigslist throughout the years. There were over 5,000 (!!) emails in there. I sent them to the trash then deleted them permanently. I then deleted the ads I had running. Today is Day #1.
I know that 60 days is not going to be enough for me - in order to have the sex life I want I need to kick this FOREVER. But I'm going to start with 60 to get the ball rolling, then re-evaluate the rules.
For the first 60, my rules are:
-No fapping
-I can cum with real girls, but only non-paid, and from regular sex acts
-No porn at all
-No ads or emailing with girls
-No talking about past weird fetishes with girls I currently hook up with
Oh and here's something else weird - somewhere along the line in my solo fapping I started playing with my nipples - now it's tough to cum when getting a bj if I don't do it (anyone else do this??). Going to say none of that for 60 days as well
Ok, that's it. Sorry for the novel. Happy to have discovered this board and looking forward to working together to conquer this once and for all.
EvoNow
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - QuittingTime - 07-26-2012 01:03 PM
Wow, that's a lot of stuff on your mind, Evo! Well we're all definitely glad you're finally doing something real about it.
The one thing I'd want to challenge you on is last "rule" you made for yourself, if only because I'm not sure I see a clear motivation for it other than being concerned it is "weird." If the possibility of it being "weird" is extremely distressing to you and you would rather work through it, then of course you have made a good rule - but if you are just trying to be "normal" because you think you "should," then I would challenge you to reconsider. Healthy sexuality is honest sexuality.
I think you should also be sure to have a solid grasp on the concept of "regular sex acts." After all, this isn't a universally agreed on concept. If you have a definition for yourself though, that's fine, just make sure people you get with share your definition and that you /really/ stick to it. See, what I'm imagining is that you'll think something is "regular" and they will think it's "freaky" and after the act is done, comment on how it was something unusual and that it will trigger your addiction. (Or that they will think something is "normal" that you think is outside your set zone, and will again be triggered by the possibility and allow their use of "normality" to fool you.)
Also, this is something I've been noticing in a lot of posts, and feel I should comment on: I notice a lot of guys on this forum using language like "fuck" and "pussy" and "cum," and I am wondering if even THAT needs to be challenged. Because to me most of that language seems very rooted in the "porn mentality." Basically, porn helps create the fantasy world by using intense, abstract or sign-based language that is divorced from reality, and my hypothesis is that continuing to use that language is the same as continuing to think in that fantasy zone. I would suggest to people really struggling with the addiction to also make a rule of "no porn-language/dirty talk" (unless it is a "normal" part of your intimacy with your partner....and even then I would suggest challenging it). Talk about sex, not "fucking;" talk about vaginas, not "pussy" or "box" or any other euphemism; talk about orgasm, not "cumming." It may seem overly medical, but I think it will help in rewiring the circuits. I know for me anyway that such language is actually a pretty big trigger for my addiction.
Day 12. Having interesting effects; the ability to control what I fantasize about (specifically, to stop fantasies since I am going total detox for 60-90 days) has improved pretty significantly over before I started the challenge and I am definitely excited about that. Cravings are getting a little tougher to cope with but I'm managing, day by day, doing my best to keep busy. I've also pretty much decided to leave my computer out of my room for the time being. I think next step will be to delete the chatlogs I have of cyber-sex. Knowing those are there is a horrible temptation. Those logs are harder to get rid of than usual pornography because I had to actually put a pretty significant effort in to making them in the first place - but having typed all that out, it becomes blatantly apparent that this is just a weak-mind excuse. I'll purge those logs momentarily.
Onward!
-Q
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - rxmohinder - 07-26-2012 05:11 PM
I noticed zero results, until today. Granted, I had a bunch of sex from Thursday-Sunday last week, so that might have hindered me. But today, damn. I have the girl I've been seeing coming over tonight, and I am about ready to explode, I want her so much.
We'll see how I feel on Monday.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - EvoNow - 07-26-2012 07:53 PM
Good points. My last rule is in place because over the last year or 2 as I've been doing actually DOING the freaky porno stuff more (both with reg girls and craigslist) - versus in the past when I would ONLY watch it in porn, not do it - I've found myself becoming more and more dependent on it for fulfillment. My definition of a healthy sex life is being able to enjoy sex with that stuff completely removed from the equation.
Fortunately I have had a lot of good old p-in-v sex in my time and really enjoyed it - and I've done so with girls who I know would NEVER get as freaky as I - so I know the potential is there.
Regarding your chat logs - I know EXACTLY how you feel. That is why I never deleted the email logs I have... as I said there were over 5,000 of them dating back to 2008! Fuck I probably spent hundreds of hours emailing back and forth, such a waste. But that is how I relapsed last time - not porn, but prying the lid back open on the email box. The only solution is to empty it. Hope you went ahead and did it!
**EDIT** I just realized my BIGGEST Fap trigger - checking that damn email box! It had become part of my online procrastination circle - check gmail, check facebook, check twitter, check fap box. If fap box had a new reply from a girl I'd drop EVERYTHING and start fapping! I'm going to fwd the important emails to another address right now and then close the entire account. This alone will probably double my productivity. lol
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - QuittingTime - 07-26-2012 08:32 PM
Nice work there, Evo! I have been trying to close that damn account on my end and it seems like AIM email accounts just won't die. Maybe if I call the company or something? Something I should look into. For today I'm just going to congratulate myself because I DID actually delete all those chat logs. The list wasn't quite as massive as yours but it was still a pretty significant testament to the various forms of my addiction. Getting rid of it was tough, made me hurt a little bit, but I know I'm better off without it (or will be when I actually am done detoxing...right now my brain keeps screaming at me to go start a new chat, but I am finding other things to do instead!)
It sounds like you're pretty sexually active in general. All I can really say is to make sure you can trust the girls not to do anything triggering to your addiction and keep thinking about what those triggers are, and you should be fine.
Onward!
-Q
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - EricR - 07-26-2012 10:59 PM
10 days. Kind of a milestone I guess. Not terribly difficult overall: no urges, not to many morning woodies, no wet dreams at all. I thing avoiding PMO is not the hard part; the hard part is to replace it with more healthy activities. I resumed weight training again after 5 months; it felt great, but I now have this lower back pain since yesterday (Ugh). Hope it'll subside on its own, felt better today.
I also started learning German on Busuu.com; I've always dreamed of visiting Vienna but first I want to have a solid foundation on the language. Ideally, I should be stuying it in a classroom and interacting with other people in person but I don't have much time, with a full-time job and commutting. Besides, online education is self-paced.
Well guys, I guess that's all for now. See you at day 20 (Hopefully)
Take care,
Eric.