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RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Alvar - 03-28-2012 11:25 AM
(03-27-2012 11:40 PM)crazyhorse Wrote:(03-27-2012 11:30 PM)Alvar Wrote: Thanks, those were the answers I was afraid to hear.
My kids leave Friday on holiday and in 2 weeks my 11 yo. will be here alone with me for the weekend. They have a PC on their room, so I'll make sure to knock before I enter the room
haha true, you are father! I had totally forgotten about that.
Just in case, there's always K9
Lol, I plan to give him some privacy and let him enjoy his youth. Besides, he spends most of his time at his mom, it's not like I could do much anyway.
I'll be far more satisfied if he ever feels comfortable opening up with me about girls or other regular teen challenges.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - FirstAidKit - 03-28-2012 08:20 PM
Ugh, I was super lazy and used some porn and the vibe to get off this weekend. SUPER bad idea, I saw the guy I've been seeing and I was just hardly motivated, not good at all. Though, to be fair he's had his own issues recently which has made him less enthused... anyway. Sticking off it now.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Trickster - 03-28-2012 08:44 PM
Day 2
Didn't look at porn or spank it at all yesterday, which was the first time I didn't do either of those things for an entire day in a long time. Right now the lack of porn isn't bothering me as much as the limiting of masturbation. I had trouble getting to sleep last night as it had been about 48 hours since I had done it before, and I was extremely antsy. I woke up in the morning and wanked it, but not to porn, but to thoughts of a live actual human being.
It's funny, yesterday, my libido was nonexistant until the night, and today it seems to be raging, even after having "relieved" myself. From what I read on this thread, it seems as though giving up the porn has more of an effect in the long term than limiting the masturbation. We'll see how things stand tomorrow.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Mark - 03-28-2012 09:26 PM
(03-28-2012 08:20 PM)FirstAidKit Wrote: Ugh, I was super lazy and used some porn and the vibe to get off this weekend. SUPER bad idea, I saw the guy I've been seeing and I was just hardly motivated, not good at all. Though, to be fair he's had his own issues recently which has made him less enthused... anyway. Sticking off it now.
I'm going to be extra curious to see what your experience is like off it, and whether it's similar or different from most of the guys'.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - boggiepop - 03-29-2012 02:58 AM
Hey everyone, I stumbled across this awesome forum by accident! I also want to take the no-more-porn challenge! I just turned 27 and recently just graduated and moved to a new city for a job where I don't know anyone and I live with my parents... temporarily. I am paying off my debts acquired from college while saving up to buy a new car and an apartment. I didn't think I was addicted to porn cuz I only used it to get off and i don't like to sit down and watch it, but the more i thought about it, porn has slowly creeped into my behavior pattern. With the ladies, I am not slaying them by any means but I am comfortable around them enough to make them laugh and I have success and wayyy tooo many failures with hooking up with girls. I have used porn as an excuse for my current situation, when i am too tired from work to go out on a friday night but i am horny, I usually watch porn and it had gotten to the point that I am making excuses as to why I need porn like "oh its a new city, small town so its hard to meet people" or "I live at home with my parents right now..so i can't possibly meet any girl who wouldn't think i am a loser"..which really is a load of bullshit I make up because of the instant gratification that comes from porn. I feel it has weakened the inner alpha male in me...I.E, "I am horny, lets go out and meet these girls and have an adventure for the nite, if i don't get it and get rejected, that sucks but its okay because I lived". Anyways the final straw was last saturday nite, i ran into a girl from my gym...she is a 9/10 and i could have interacted with her, i was literally two people away from her and i backed out because i was nervous. Anyways...3hrs later and a couple of shots, I went home and tried to erase my failure with watching porn..i got off but it was empty! It was then i realized that I need to man up and let go of porn because even though its awesome to see whatever type of woman you want naked, its not worth it if you can't experience that same thing in real life...I have tried this challenge before and made it 2 wks but this time, with the help of you guys, I would like to get away from it and go out there and be social, flirt with girls and either score or get rejected...but i am ready to give this up..it is affecting me! I am in my 3rd day and i am horny as shit!!!! Sorry for the long introduction btw, but I respect all you guys who are doing this, it's a mental thing..I just hope i can beat this for real this time.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Alvar - 03-29-2012 08:21 AM
Quote:So Gentlemen, how are your longterm results?
I went without porn for 4 or 5 months on the masturbation diet - once a week, no porn. About a month ago I relapsed and watched porn on two different days, more than once
. My voice was really acute the following days and I couldn't really project much, so I went back on the diet. I'm now lasting longer and can now ejaculate in vaginal sex while wearing a condom.I have from sexual anxiety and I still have problems coming, because I want make sure my partner has her fun before and don't focus much on my needs until I hear her scream. Yet, I have made myself blow my load in less than 10 minutes (yes, that's an achievement.)
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 03-29-2012 12:13 PM
Hey boggiepop, welcome aboard! You came to the right place.
It's going to be hard. Your sexual desire will go through the roof. Women that you didn't even notice before in your everyday life will suddenly start to look amazingly desirable. But this can be a very pleasurable experience. You will be filled with energy, you will appreciate feminine beauty more than ever. You can start to feel more confident and outgoing. It's best if you find something else to do with your energy, like working out or starting a new hobby. Or actually pursuing real-life women.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - FirstAidKit - 03-29-2012 02:29 PM
(03-28-2012 09:26 PM)Mark Wrote:(03-28-2012 08:20 PM)FirstAidKit Wrote: Ugh, I was super lazy and used some porn and the vibe to get off this weekend. SUPER bad idea, I saw the guy I've been seeing and I was just hardly motivated, not good at all. Though, to be fair he's had his own issues recently which has made him less enthused... anyway. Sticking off it now.
I'm going to be extra curious to see what your experience is like off it, and whether it's similar or different from most of the guys'.
Hah, I feel like I should be doing it in a more controlled way then!
I'll see if I can summarise so far...
I've only been avoiding porn, not masturbation, sex or orgasms (have in fact been actively seeking out those 3). I guess it's been something like 2 months now? Porn for me was never really videos anyway, I've always been a fan of written stuff to wank to, and I like looking at sexy stills, but typically just as a jumping off point for my imagination.
I've had two bouts of INSANE HORN about a month apart, though I think these tie into hormonal cycles, and it's recently taken a dip... I have been super busy though, which means I've not been masturbating as often, and I find the more I do the hornier I get, which is an interesting phenomenon.
Feel free to PM or ask me any more specific questions here
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 03-29-2012 03:12 PM
(03-29-2012 02:58 AM)boggiepop Wrote: Hey everyone, I stumbled across this awesome forum by accident! I also want to take the no-more-porn challenge! I just turned 27 and recently just graduated and moved to a new city for a job where I don't know anyone and I live with my parents... temporarily. I am paying off my debts acquired from college while saving up to buy a new car and an apartment. I didn't think I was addicted to porn cuz I only used it to get off and i don't like to sit down and watch it, but the more i thought about it, porn has slowly creeped into my behavior pattern. With the ladies, I am not slaying them by any means but I am comfortable around them enough to make them laugh and I have success and wayyy tooo many failures with hooking up with girls. I have used porn as an excuse for my current situation, when i am too tired from work to go out on a friday night but i am horny, I usually watch porn and it had gotten to the point that I am making excuses as to why I need porn like "oh its a new city, small town so its hard to meet people" or "I live at home with my parents right now..so i can't possibly meet any girl who wouldn't think i am a loser"..which really is a load of bullshit I make up because of the instant gratification that comes from porn. I feel it has weakened the inner alpha male in me...I.E, "I am horny, lets go out and meet these girls and have an adventure for the nite, if i don't get it and get rejected, that sucks but its okay because I lived". Anyways the final straw was last saturday nite, i ran into a girl from my gym...she is a 9/10 and i could have interacted with her, i was literally two people away from her and i backed out because i was nervous. Anyways...3hrs later and a couple of shots, I went home and tried to erase my failure with watching porn..i got off but it was empty! It was then i realized that I need to man up and let go of porn because even though its awesome to see whatever type of woman you want naked, its not worth it if you can't experience that same thing in real life...I have tried this challenge before and made it 2 wks but this time, with the help of you guys, I would like to get away from it and go out there and be social, flirt with girls and either score or get rejected...but i am ready to give this up..it is affecting me! I am in my 3rd day and i am horny as shit!!!! Sorry for the long introduction btw, but I respect all you guys who are doing this, it's a mental thing..I just hope i can beat this for real this time.
Heyboggiepop!
Thanks for your introduction. You're definetly not alone with this issue. Frakly, dropping porn for me has already caused a lot of changes. Before I would feel nervous when I had to interact with a cute girl in my classroom, but now I don't have that anymore. I have this sense of calmness when I'm around women and I also tend to appreciate them more.
That last part relaly got me thinking. When I was still hooked on porn, I wouldn't really want to give it up until I came across yourbrainonporn. What I read on that website, really got me thinking. All these guys were describing the exact symptomps that I was having. Check out my second post in this thread, for a good introduction on porn, the withdrawal that you can expect and the potential benefits that you can gain from droping.
To be a bit more specific, I think you will definetly like these reboot journals:
http://yourbrainonporn.com/age-23-metamorphosis-into-chick-magnet
http://yourbrainonporn.com/day-56-im-a-playa
you were talking about your inner alfa after all
.good luck on your journey.
next time use paragraphs though
(03-29-2012 02:29 PM)FirstAidKit Wrote:(03-28-2012 09:26 PM)Mark Wrote:(03-28-2012 08:20 PM)FirstAidKit Wrote: Ugh, I was super lazy and used some porn and the vibe to get off this weekend. SUPER bad idea, I saw the guy I've been seeing and I was just hardly motivated, not good at all. Though, to be fair he's had his own issues recently which has made him less enthused... anyway. Sticking off it now.
I'm going to be extra curious to see what your experience is like off it, and whether it's similar or different from most of the guys'.
Hah, I feel like I should be doing it in a more controlled way then!
I'll see if I can summarise so far...
I've only been avoiding porn, not masturbation, sex or orgasms (have in fact been actively seeking out those 3). I guess it's been something like 2 months now? Porn for me was never really videos anyway, I've always been a fan of written stuff to wank to, and I like looking at sexy stills, but typically just as a jumping off point for my imagination.
I've had two bouts of INSANE HORN about a month apart, though I think these tie into hormonal cycles, and it's recently taken a dip... I have been super busy though, which means I've not been masturbating as often, and I find the more I do the hornier I get, which is an interesting phenomenon.
Feel free to PM or ask me any more specific questions here
Same here, the more I masturbate, the hornier I get. When I first dropped porn, I had a super horny feeling for an entire week. It felt good, because when I consumed porn daily, I felt zero libido to real life women.
Although I'm definetly paying attention to keeping masturbation to a minimum and I'm only going to do it when focusing on sensations. Which is supercool, if you're able to do it, that is.
I don't think you will notice that much of a change, since you said you only used written stuff. I used to be like that for a while myself, haha, but I guess it grew old
.Anyways, I wish you the best though.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - FirstAidKit - 03-29-2012 04:10 PM
Well, the change I was trying to implement is that while I find it easy to get off when reading porn, it takes me foreevveerrrrrrr without it. So I found when I don't use it it takes a lot less time - it just happened me doing this coincided with the no more porn thread getting popular, so I thought it would be interesting to put my two cents on.
You could also argue that if men are primarily stimulated visually (and hence video porn messes up the dopamine receptors) and I'm primarily verbally stimulated it could have the same effect. Written/verbal stuff has always turned me on far more than equivalent videos, to the point that if I read enough without touching, I can turned on enough that it literally takes me 15 seconds of actual stimulation to get over the edge - I did find that pretty cool though.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - questra - 03-29-2012 04:19 PM
Hey Guys,
Hope I'm not too late to jump on the bandwagon. I came across Mark's article a few days ago and went 'Holy Shit! I actually have a problem and I didn't even realize it'.
A little background about myself. I'm 28 years old this year, and I've had 'bouts' of addiction to porn over the years since I was a teenager. But they've probably been milder addictions - mild to medium use of porn. Over the past two years I've been trying to swear of porn completely, and I've been able to do that for months at a time. There have been relapses of course.
In recent months, I've actually fallen into a routine of watching sexy videos and movie sex scenes. It's not hardcore porn, but I've realized it's done the same thing to me. I've more or less substituted my hardcore porn addiction for a variety of sexy videos. It's kind of ridiculous all the excuses I've been telling myself ('oh, this is OK. It's just a striptease.' 'Oh, this is just a fake sex movie scene') to 'work around' my written 'Watch No Porn' resolution. And yes, my sex life has come to the point where I often can't finish without manually helping myself. My girlfriend hasn't ever complained (bless her soul) but I think I'm really selling her short right now.
I've been totally off any form of porn, sexy videos and pictures for 3 days now. Really want to make the 60 days, and hopefully give up porn permanently. So far it's been good, except for the once in a while urging to visit some of my favorite sites. The urges seem more like a 'habit' thing, rather than outright lust though. I don't know if it's a placebo effect but I feel more focused and aggressive too.
Will update you guys on how I do and hope to hear back from you guys. All the best and we will beat this!
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 03-29-2012 04:52 PM
(03-29-2012 04:10 PM)FirstAidKit Wrote: Well, the change I was trying to implement is that while I find it easy to get off when reading porn, it takes me foreevveerrrrrrr without it. So I found when I don't use it it takes a lot less time - it just happened me doing this coincided with the no more porn thread getting popular, so I thought it would be interesting to put my two cents on.
You could also argue that if men are primarily stimulated visually (and hence video porn messes up the dopamine receptors) and I'm primarily verbally stimulated it could have the same effect. Written/verbal stuff has always turned me on far more than equivalent videos, to the point that if I read enough without touching, I can turned on enough that it literally takes me 15 seconds of actual stimulation to get over the edge - I did find that pretty cool though.
Yeah I see your point.
It could be very true that it messes with the dopamine receptors as well. Since you said it takes 15 seconds of actual stimulation to get you off, it has to be very stimulating. Frankly, everything that involves "reward" is related to dopamine receptors.
How could I have missed that
.You could experiment with it, and see how it goes. Now that I think of it, there were actually some porn addicts who could only cum when a women tried dirty talk on them. So maybe you'll find the awnser when you drop it for a while?
I was just a bit surprised, because on all of the forums that I'm active, I hardly hear "man these erotic stories are giving me erectyle dysfunction". haha
(03-29-2012 04:19 PM)questra Wrote: Hey Guys,
Hope I'm not too late to jump on the bandwagon. I came across Mark's article a few days ago and went 'Holy Shit! I actually have a problem and I didn't even realize it'.
A little background about myself. I'm 28 years old this year, and I've had 'bouts' of addiction to porn over the years since I was a teenager. But they've probably been milder addictions - mild to medium use of porn. Over the past two years I've been trying to swear of porn completely, and I've been able to do that for months at a time. There have been relapses of course.
In recent months, I've actually fallen into a routine of watching sexy videos and movie sex scenes. It's not hardcore porn, but I've realized it's done the same thing to me. I've more or less substituted my hardcore porn addiction for a variety of sexy videos. It's kind of ridiculous all the excuses I've been telling myself ('oh, this is OK. It's just a striptease.' 'Oh, this is just a fake sex movie scene') to 'work around' my written 'Watch No Porn' resolution. And yes, my sex life has come to the point where I often can't finish without manually helping myself. My girlfriend hasn't ever complained (bless her soul) but I think I'm really selling her short right now.
I've been totally off any form of porn, sexy videos and pictures for 3 days now. Really want to make the 60 days, and hopefully give up porn permanently. So far it's been good, except for the once in a while urging to visit some of my favorite sites. The urges seem more like a 'habit' thing, rather than outright lust though. I don't know if it's a placebo effect but I feel more focused and aggressive too.
Will update you guys on how I do and hope to hear back from you guys. All the best and we will beat this!
Hey man, if you've already been months without it, then that's already great. If you want to prevent relapses, you could install a web filter. If you look at my second post in this forum, you'll find a lot of usefull information.
Sexy videos and stripteases arn't extreme material, so you're lucky with that. But it still the same principle and you're still getting an ammount of dopamine that you're not getting from real life (girls walking down the street, kissing, etc.). Just a question do you feel apathy towards women? Cause I've had this for years, and I had no idea it was related to porn.
For me personally I think I'll have K9 on my computer my entire life, I just don't trust myself enough. haha, even with the occassional picture.
With K9, you can prevent A LOT of porn, but there are still ways around it. So, you must be prepared for this as well. Personally I prefer meditation and self talk.
my favourite self talk is: "I'm way more commited to a successfull reboot then 10 minutes of pleasure, just look at all the benefits that I've already experienced. I'm now even more commited then ever before". Find what works for you, but I really like this one.
Good luck and keep me updated
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - questra - 03-29-2012 06:03 PM
Quote:Hey man, if you've already been months without it, then that's already great. If you want to prevent relapses, you could install a web filter. If you look at my second post in this forum, you'll find a lot of usefull information.
Sexy videos and stripteases arn't extreme material, so you're lucky with that. But it still the same principle and you're still getting an ammount of dopamine that you're not getting from real life (girls walking down the street, kissing, etc.). Just a question do you feel apathy towards women? Cause I've had this for years, and I had no idea it was related to porn.
For me personally I think I'll have K9 on my computer my entire life, I just don't trust myself enough. haha, even with the occassional picture.
With K9, you can prevent A LOT of porn, but there are still ways around it. So, you must be prepared for this as well. Personally I prefer meditation and self talk.
my favourite self talk is: "I'm way more commited to a successfull reboot then 10 minutes of pleasure, just look at all the benefits that I've already experienced. I'm now even more commited then ever before". Find what works for you, but I really like this one.
Good luck and keep me updated
crazyhorse - thanks man for all that input. Nope, I don't think I've ever felt much apathy towards women. If anything, I'm more the type of guy that used to put women on a pedestal. The exception might be right in those moments where I've just finished a session of wanking to porn - where I'd feel a bit of disgust (ironically) at the lady on screen. This never lasts for very long though. In an hour it's all lust again.
I guess what really triggered me was realizing that although I more or less had the 'watch no porn' thing under control, I had substituted the porn with something else and was basically getting the same negative effects.
Perhaps the reboot won't be as dramatic but I really hope it'll bring some big positive effects too. Will keep you updated
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - boggiepop - 03-29-2012 11:04 PM
Hey guys, thank you for the suport! I gotta thank you crazy horse for the link, I will definitely look at it. I am on day 4 and holy crap man...I am looking at women i would think to be attractive in a sexual manner..geezus!!! I definitely need to keep active or else, idle time will get the best of me, like it did in the past.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Trickster - 03-31-2012 04:31 PM
Day 5. Libido has varied WILDLY, and I've caught myself automatically trying to go to porn sites without thinking. I put a stop to that whenever it's happened. Am not noticing an appreciable difference in the way I feel most of the time though.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 03-31-2012 05:28 PM
Awesome guys. Keep it up.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Zac - 03-31-2012 05:46 PM
I am officially addicted to pornography, or at least, having orgasms.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Thenewguy - 03-31-2012 10:22 PM
omg It's been about 2 weeks without porn and I'm going crazy with horniness... I don't want to masturbate either?
The fact that I just came from a party where I grinded with many sexy women didnt make it better...
What do I do to take my mind off the urge?
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 03-31-2012 10:22 PM
haha Zac, I'm in the same boat buddy
, lol.besides we are now officially a no fap forum.
Check the comment section of the article, you'll find a post where Gary names no fap forums and postmasculine is one of them. Besides we have actually beaten RSD!!! This thread has 400 posts, they have 300 posts. Take that Durden
.http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201203/the-other-porn-experiment/comments
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Zac - 03-31-2012 11:11 PM
Cupids Poison Arrow! I'm reading that book! That's what spawned my fertilization/bonding sex thread. Crazy.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - The Notorious PhD - 04-01-2012 01:30 AM
Alright, I'm in.
For me, porn abstinence will not be hard (one benefit of growing up with internet censorship). It's the once-a-week masturbation limit that's already got me worried.
@therealdannye : lol, I feel the same...
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Edmond Dantès - 04-01-2012 09:36 AM
My longterm results are that I totally turned my back on video porn and I feel zero desire to go back to it. The main reason for this decision is that I understand now it's not a realistic demonstration of "normal" sex and that it fucks up my brain, so I leave it for good.
Video porn got replaced by pictures of normal, naked women, which I find now far more attractive than the average porn star with fake tits, etc...Masturbated every second or third day, but I've get a feeling of powerlessness when I masturbate too much.
So I want to cut down on that as well and dumb pictures as well.
It felt really good to be in the PMO-Challenge as some of the side effects of it were a higher productivity, more focus, a deeper voice and women became more attractive (or as attractive as they're normally are
) ...and I want to go back to this state again. So I'm in again.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 04-01-2012 10:27 AM
I also really like the state that you get in once you are PMO free for a week or two. It's exhilirating. The funny thing is that your impulse is constantly to break that state (by watching porn or masturbating). It's a clear case of using your rational mind to choose for the greater good over the temporary pleasure. Because obviously, watching porn is fun in the short term, as well. But the longer term effects of abstaining from it are better overall.
Edmond,
You say this:
(04-01-2012 09:36 AM)Edmond Dantès Wrote: The main reason for this decision is that I understand now it's not a realistic demonstration of "normal" sex and that it fucks up my brain, so I leave it for good.
Do you mean by this mostly the acts portrayed in porn, or the appearance of the women (and men) in porn?
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Edmond Dantès - 04-01-2012 11:42 AM
(04-01-2012 10:27 AM)Halo Effect Wrote: I also really like the state that you get in once you are PMO free for a week or two. It's exhilirating. The funny thing is that your impulse is constantly to break that state (by watching porn or masturbating). It's a clear case of using your rational mind to choose for the greater good over the temporary pleasure. Because obviously, watching porn is fun in the short term, as well. But the longer term effects of abstaining from it are better overall.
Edmond,
You say this:
(04-01-2012 09:36 AM)Edmond Dantès Wrote: The main reason for this decision is that I understand now it's not a realistic demonstration of "normal" sex and that it fucks up my brain, so I leave it for good.
Do you mean by this mostly the acts portrayed in porn, or the appearance of the women (and men) in porn?
Uhmm...actually both. How shall I describe it ? The acts portrayed in porn are focused on showing the penis and the vagina of the actors and how the penis enters the vagina again and again. There are positions that often do not feel comfortable for the actors, but they're used to stimulate the viewer by giving him the best possible view... I mean if you would normally film a couple having sex most of the time you would have a different perspective, you know? You would see the genitals less and stuff like that.
Can remember a scene in a porn I watched last year. The actors were having sex and they truly enjoyed it, they laughed and hugged each other from time to time as they made love and I'm sure this was the first time I saw this in a porn since I started using videos five years ago. See how fucked up your perspective of sex can become when you're only source of information are porn videos?
And this is just one example out of many. Am so tired of fake tits-pornstars, who fake orgasms and are fucked by extremely large dicks.
Young guys, myself included, can get a wrong picture of how long a normal penis is like and I also became terribly insecure about the size of my penis even though mine is above average.
All of this misinformation ends in a distorted picture of sex, sexuality, anatomy of the male and female bodies and it gives anxiety, shame and guilt about sex, sexuality and masturbation a perfect breeding ground.
This is the effect of porn and I congratulate everyone, who is no longer willed to let it have this impact on his life.
RE: The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 04-01-2012 12:15 PM
Ah okay. I agree with all points you make. Sex in porn is almost always empty and fake and you see extremes constantly.
I do think, though, that it's completely fine to want things that are also done in porn. I sometimes read opinions stating that everything porn-like is disrespectful or unnatural. Like anal sex, coming in her face occasionally, hard and rough sex, dominance. Nothing wrong with those things. And many women who absolutely love doing those things as well. But in a healthy relationship these things are done in a context of mutual respect and trust, and only when the time is right for them.