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The No-More-Porn Thread - freiheitlich - 02-01-2012 02:46 PM
Brian Wrote:I will probably restart again tommorow lol.
I can confirm with the sleep part. If you are tired, then the sex drive is less. My Question is: How do Sports effect the sex drive. (I assume positive). Who can validate? I will start jogging.
Fitness fanatics 'have high sex drives'
Fitness fanatics really do have higher sex drives, according to scientists who say they have identified a link between exercise and personality.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Schmechti - 02-02-2012 01:51 PM
I will join you guys for the challenge, means no porn and no masturbation for at least 30 days.
I always had the feeling that porn and masturbation was reducing my results and motivation with women. I need to change it in order to be more aggressive and to have a higher motivation to approach. When I did not masturbate for a few days, I noticed how I start to find girls more attractive than usual (higher quantity)
The No-More-Porn Thread - SeXyBaCk - 02-02-2012 02:40 PM
been making a point to not watch porn for about 2-3 weeks now. The no sex/masturbation thing is just not practical for me, or undoable. I'm not sure if regular exercise has increased my sexdrive, which i always considered to be healthy, but feeling better about yourself and your body definitely make you feel sexier ... which in my view rubs off onto the woman you're sleeping with.
I can't say i ever had the issue that i didn't feel women a lot of women were attractive. I don't necessarily see a lot of hot women, and sometimes i even notice one that's hot but not as attractive or has a sexual look as much as another woman. Hard to explain.
While not watching porn anymore i've also quit coffee so that the only thing bothering me at the moment is feeling a lot more tired than i usually do, could be the weather too though.
The No-More-Porn Thread - TheAnimal - 02-02-2012 09:44 PM
I'm doing the NO-PMO for 15 days and I only had a phase of 2 days were my voice was deeper and confidence grew. My face-skin has improved fast and my acne was nearly gone and since yesterday it seems to get worse a bit again. ( I had flatline since the 1st day of challenge)
My withdrawal symptoms are: insomnia, tiredness, lack of concentration, --> these 3 REALLY SUCK!! , also mood swings , girls-apathy, no libido,
higher freency of urinating.
The conclusion is , that I have still more negative effects.
Positive things,which I noticed the last days:1) My thoughts and fantasies are more natural, so there are less unrealistic and unnatural thoughts.
The situations looked like this some days before: Having more unnatural thoughts ( pornographic ones included) and sometimes getting a bit errected by it. Then I only focused on my sensation, and as a result the erection has gone away really fast! I mean ,within a few seconds! Seems like the brain is " faking a libido".
2) Now, I've more natural thoughts and if I get errected and then focus only on my sensation, the erection goes away (much) slowier. I think this could be a sign, that it is the true and more natural libido.
Sometimes I really panic about the lack of my benefits, because I often read "after 10days I feel great" and for me this was only one time for 2 days and all the other days were average or have depressed me.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-02-2012 10:29 PM
TheAnimal Wrote:I'm doing the NO-PMO for 15 days and I only had a phase of 2 days were my voice was deeper and confidence grew. My face-skin has improved fast and my acne was nearly gone and since yesterday it seems to get worse a bit again. ( I had flatline since the 1st day of challenge)
Welcome to the world of the withdrawal
There are a couple of things that I would like to share with you. The most important being that this is going to suck, A LOT!
Especially those first weeks are really though. Have you read my blog on the reuniting forum? If you have forgotten my nickname, it was "High_Achiever", I definetly advise you to read my blog. I would also advice you to read my first post in this thread, which contains usefull links, such as the withdrawal symptomps that one can expect.
There really isn't much that you can do about these things, only time can tell when you'll be rebooted. What helped me a lot, was the belief that "the thougher my withdrawal gets, the more positive my benefits should be". Think about it, this actually makes sense, you've been holding back your true potential by numbing your reward system and now it's time to get even.
You said you had a deep voice in the first few days? Look as those moments as a sign of your true potential. You'll experience both greatness and low moments, be prepared for this and know that in the long run you should get there.
DON't EVER TRY TO TEST YOUR LIBIDO WITH PORN! don't do this, it will make verything worse.
last question: have you blocked every little bit of access to porn in your house? If so, good. If no, do this. Don't belive the "willpower" thing. The fact is that it doesn't matter how strong your willpower is, it only matters when your willpower is weak. Think about, you come home from a night out, you got rejected and you're a bit drunk. How strong is your willpower in that moment? Probably not very strong, and especially when you're addicted to something, you know that these moments will probably be too much for you.
If you have blocked every bit of acces to porn in your house, then you need to be outside a lot. Porn hacks a certain part of your brain, a part that is normally stimulated by social activities, excercise, connecting, chasing after the ladies, goal setting etc.
Definetly do these two things and you should be fine.
Only time can tell when it's over.
I wish you the best and hopefully we'll get a glimpse of your true potential soon
The No-More-Porn Thread - TheAnimal - 02-03-2012 08:18 PM
with "willpower". It's because will-power is only for sprints and self-discipline is for marathons. And I can definitely say that I have blocked any opportunities to watch porn and that I won't fail because of watching porn. In the recent days I've got more and more natural thoughts (instead of porn). This leads to the mentality , that it is okay to masturbate or orgasm to such natural things. I mean, actually this is my /our aim, isn't it?
But still, I could resist so much ,that I only masturbated maximal for 10min with low intensity. It was rather a massage.
So,my desires switched from "thinking of porn and to masturbate to it" to more natural thoughts, which are like a said also a trap.
I think this is the first good sign.
And this sentence " the tougher the withdrawal, the more benefits there will be" also makes sense to me. I hope that this will be motivating enough not to fail.
And yes I've read all things from this forum and from reuniting.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-03-2012 08:58 PM
TheAnimal Wrote:with "willpower". It's because will-power is only for sprints and self-discipline is for marathons. And I can definitely say that I have blocked any opportunities to watch porn and that I won't fail because of watching porn. In the recent days I've got more and more natural thoughts (instead of porn). This leads to the mentality , that it is okay to masturbate or orgasm to such natural things. I mean, actually this is my /our aim, isn't it?
I'm glad to hear that
One more thing. If you really want to speed up this reboot process, it's best to avoid masturbation as well. When I avoided masturbation for 21 days I really started noticing benefits.
Good luck on your journey!
The No-More-Porn Thread - Schmechti - 02-04-2012 07:04 PM
Day 3 and still going strong. My sex drive hasn't increased much until now. Maybe in a few days.
The No-More-Porn Thread - freiheitlich - 02-06-2012 07:28 PM
RESULTS after 2 month without porn and masturbation
- my average sexual desire is a little bit higher
- my penis has more volume
- I sleep less
- I have more energy and motivation
The No-More-Porn Thread - Davey - 02-07-2012 02:23 AM
I'm not sure how many of these can be attributed to eliminating porn/masturbation from ones daily routine. Life in general can change drastically (postively or negatively) within 30 seconds, let alone 30 days. Personally, I find that I only watch porn when I'm bored and have time to kill. Also, when I'm suffering from insomnia, rubbing one out helps me to relax. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks without masturbating and barely realize it. Other times I'm corking one 3 times a day. I think it might be worth it to try this challenge though, just to see how it goes. So far I'm looking at about 24 hours lol.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-07-2012 11:54 AM
Davey Wrote:I'm not sure how many of these can be attributed to eliminating porn/masturbation from ones daily routine. Life in general can change drastically (postively or negatively) within 30 seconds, let alone 30 days. Personally, I find that I only watch porn when I'm bored and have time to kill. Also, when I'm suffering from insomnia, rubbing one out helps me to relax. Sometimes I go for 2 weeks without masturbating and barely realize it. Other times I'm corking one 3 times a day. I think it might be worth it to try this challenge though, just to see how it goes. So far I'm looking at about 24 hours lol.
welcome on board!
You arn't DaveyDrama from the practicalpickup forums? It's just a guess actually .
I can definetly understand your scepsis. I taught the same about this stuff, that was, until I wanted to throw it out of the window. If you look at some of my (& others) posts in this thread, you'll read about the withdrawal symptoms (insomnia, flatline), that I've been through. Let me tell you, my scepsis was thrown right out of the window.
Judging by the ammount of times you masturbate (is it to porn?), you really don't come across as a guy who's heavy in this stuff. Which is off course a good thing. But be aware that the positives that you will notice, are off course going to be smaller then somebody who has been a more frequent user. Reasons for this, could be because it will take longer for withdrawal symptomps to kick in.
Maybe I can relieve you a bit of you scepsis? Some of the positives that I'm noticing now are: improved confidence (and I already was confident), I'm having morning wood every day now, women are starting to become far more attractive again, feelings of ambition and competitiveness.
Definetly look around this thread, it's a goldmine of information .
Take care and good luck on your journey!
The No-More-Porn Thread - sledgehammer - 02-07-2012 01:19 PM
Ok Im getting interested in this.
A question, if youre supposed not to maturbate or watch porn. What about actually having sex with a girl? Wont having sex just communicate to your body that you... ehh released? Then you are back on step 1 again?
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-07-2012 02:24 PM
sledgehammer Wrote:Ok Im getting interested in this.
Having sex with a girl isn't really a setback.
The reason why a lot of guys notice benefits in a reboot period (no PMO), is because they have been overstimulating their brains for years. When they are rebooting, they are slowly returning to normal sensitivty. This implies that normal stimuli will become far more appealing again. These include: meeting a new girl, a cute girl that smiles at you, setting goals etc...
It could be that you will notice benefits from a reboot period. Just awnser these questions:
1) how many times a day do you masturbate?
2) do you masturbate with porn?
3) If you watch porn, how long do you watch it? This is a big one, my porn session included at least 30 minutes. And if I couldn't get to sleep, I would watch more.
4) Has your porn use escalated? This means that "shemale porn" or "gay porn" is starting to become appealing, although you're completely sure that you're straight, and that it doesn't match your sexual orientation.
5) do you experience apathy around women who you know are objectively beautifull?
6) do you have strong social and sexual anxiety? This part is a bit tricky, it could also be a genetic predispositon. So definetly link it to your awnser on question 1,2,3,4.
These are just a few questions. You can awnser them privately or send me a PM if you want to share you results. If you're particurarily intrigued by this, I would recommend you to sign up at the reuniting forum. They will be able to help you out a lot.
The No-More-Porn Thread - sledgehammer - 02-07-2012 02:34 PM
crazyhorse Wrote:Hey Sledgehammer
Alright thansk for the answer crazyhorze! let me answer the questions:
1. Usually once a day, sometimes 2.
2. Yes, 95% of the time.
3. 30 minutes to 1.5hour usually.
4. Absolutely not, shemale and gay porn is a HUGE turnoff haha!
5. Not sure, maybe a little.
6. Not strong social anxiety, but some SURE. Sexual anxiety pretty huge. I remember my first relationship where I often couldnt get it up, didnt enjoy the sex so much, cum 2 fast and in the beginning actively trying to avoid sex with my girlfriend cause I was anxious I shoulnt get it up.
Whats also interesting is that when I was like 15-16, I prefered "softer porn" and got great stimulation from it. Nowadays Im pretty indifferent to it, it just sux basicly. I need hardcore brazzers porn to feel stimulated.
Ive also noticed losing my erections fast if I dont stimulate the penis, like when zapping to another porn clip or something. Some years ago my erection was stronger when watching porn. And Im only 24.
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-07-2012 06:06 PM
sledgehammer Wrote:Alright thansk for the answer crazyhorze! let me answer the questions:
it's definetly a positive sign that your porn use hasn't escalated to gay and shemale porn. Yes it may seem funny, but I've actually spoken to a couple of guys who were really confused about this. The poor soules didn't know what was going on
If you click on this website, you'll see informative videos (right side of the website) about porn use and erectyle disfunction.
There are a couple of interesting things you mention in your response:
- For me personally I had strong apathy. I realized I had this, when I knew the women around me were objectively beautifull, but I didn't felt it.
- haha you also watched porn for long streaks, just like me .
- I can relate to "soft porn" being attractive and now it doesn't appeal to you anymore. I remember when I was twelve, I got insanely turned on by a picture of britney spears in a newspaper.
- I also had it that I would sometimes lose my erection when zapping between porn videos. This is a sign that you're becoming desentized.
I woul definetly give this a shot. From my personal experience I can relate to your sexual anxiety, the erection loss during video switching and the apathy.
If you want more information, you can check out http://www.reuniting.info/forum. Just tell them you're story and they'll gladly help you. I post there as "High_Achiever". You can read my blog if you want to, that way you can know what to expect when you're rebooting. You can also read my first post on that forum titled "I finally realized why I was lacking sexual drive", it's really informative to read the responses from other men.
The No-More-Porn Thread - sledgehammer - 02-08-2012 12:51 AM
thanks crazyhorze. A question, is it just about not watching porn, but you are "allowed" to masturbate anyway? Or should you quit both porn and masturbation completely?
I mean, I dont have a girlfriend at the moment so if I stop masturbating completely my ballz will probably eventually explode lol!
The No-More-Porn Thread - Schmechti - 02-08-2012 01:07 AM
I think quitting masturbation completely results in a high desperation around women which can be a bad thing.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Davey - 02-08-2012 06:32 AM
crazyhorse Wrote:You arn't DaveyDrama from the practicalpickup forums? It's just a guess actually .
Well that didn't take very long. Indeed I am. Just recently returned from my self-imposed exile. How is everyone doing?
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-08-2012 10:50 AM
sledgehammer Wrote:thanks crazyhorze. A question, is it just about not watching porn, but you are "allowed" to masturbate anyway? Or should you quit both porn and masturbation completely?
haha. I remember when i first attempted this, the maximum I could go without it, was a day. Then I went to 2 days, 4 days and later on 6 days. When I started meditating I went to 21 days for the first time ever.
It's not "completely" necessary, but it does speed up the process. I remember I had this annoying flatline (no libido). After my first 21 days of no PMO, well my libido returned much stronger, I also had constant morning wood for the past 2 weeks (in that 21 day period). All of these things were absent to me for a very long time.
So the choice is yours. If you read up on my reboot, you'll probably get a better idea of what I mean.
Schmechti Wrote:I think quitting masturbation completely results in a high desperation around women which can be a bad thing.
lol. Well yeah it can, but so can thousands of other factors. i've never really believed so much in this.
Davey Wrote:Well that didn't take very long. Indeed I am. Just recently returned from my self-imposed exile. How is everyone doing?
Well I have you on facebook and you have a hot girlfriend , maybe that's why I remembered you
The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 02-08-2012 08:55 PM
Since the 27th of November I've had exactly one orgasm from masturbation, and that was while camming with a girl I'm dating.
There was a period where I looked up photography with hot naked women and jerked off to it (while not coming), and I watched stickam.com for a while hoping some girl would show her boobs. I wrote about this in this thread I believe. But I haven't watched porn since the start of my challenge. I haven't watched anything lately.
I feel like watching porn would be good though, but I'll just only watch it with girls I'm dating. That'll protect me from the negative side effects.
Overall I think I'm pretty comfortable in my skin and confident. I can very easily control myself now when it comes to sex and masturbation. It's like my mind knows that being horny needn't lead to masturbation, sex or orgasm.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Davey - 02-08-2012 11:43 PM
Quote:Well I have you on facebook and you have a hot girlfriend , maybe that's why I remembered you
Haha. Much appreciated. Glad to be back.
As far as the no porn thing goes, I'm going on Day 4. Last night was tough when I got turned on via. conversation with a girl and had no immediate sexual outlet. I feel like I can push through this though. Just have to keep myself from getting bored.
Day 5 update: Had some pretty epic sexual dreams the past 2 nights. Just woke up from an awesome one involving a surprisingly busty Marissa Tomei. Morning wood has returned with a vengeance.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Halo Effect - 02-10-2012 08:47 PM
Some of you mention pornographic thoughts/fantasies as being unnatural. What constitutes a porn-like fantasy and what is a natural fantasy for you? Assuming sex with women (not men/shemales).
(Asking because my fantasies are probably pretty porn-like but I don't see this as a problem.)
The No-More-Porn Thread - crazyhorse - 02-11-2012 11:43 PM
Halo Effect Wrote:Some of you mention pornographic thoughts/fantasies as being unnatural. What constitutes a porn-like fantasy and what is a natural fantasy for you? Assuming sex with women (not men/shemales).
My fantasies are only about real life women now. It just happens automatic after dropping the porn.
I'm also participating a whole lot more in my dreams.
The No-More-Porn Thread - Arikado - 02-12-2012 01:02 AM
I'm back on the wagon. Honestly I forgot to keep track of the last day I viewed porn, because I attempted (and failed) two reboot attempts before my current kick. I guesstimate that it's been 3 weeks since I've viewed any sort of porn. I did jerk it once a week after, and then had a girl give me a hand last Sunday. Felt pretty good, but I flatlined a week in sans porn (even though I was masturbating). It's odd. Otherwise I feel pretty groovy. Been busy with school, work, and my novel (and another article for this site coming soon, promise!).
I did have a few vivid sexual dreams, one of which I swear-to-god felt like a wet dream. But, the flatline blows. It's very strange not having any "true" erections (even with the girl, it wasn't as full as it used to be). I feel the usual amount of social anxiety, and in fact, I feel like I just have very low testosterone. I spar MMA twice a week, and I don''t feel as aggressive or focused as usual. Hopefully things get better another few weeks in. Going to a club tonight. We'll see how that goes.
The No-More-Porn Thread - freiheitlich - 02-12-2012 05:43 AM
after 2 months with no porn and masturbation i will stop this, because i notice a lot of desperation among women. I notice that harm the game i do. I will reduce it to 1 time per week.
Here the results again.
RESULTS after 2 month without porn and masturbation
- my average sexual desire is a little bit higher
- my penis has more volume
- I sleep less
- I have more energy and motivation
- Desperation State if I approach
Be careful about the Danger of no porn and masturbation, it can lead to Desperation.