Hey man, I understand, I've been there. I know, it's a slightly chilly night in February, perfect time to practice, right? You look young, 21-22ish, like a nice kid, and you're Asian? Who woulda thought. Your clothes could fit better, but at least you're not wearing a goddamn fuzzy hat.
But really, the opinion opener, to some skinny Asian guy and a bunch of 30 year old Hispanic dudes? I see you dawg. I've been on some forums, read some books. I know I may have said something as terribly tangential to nothing as "what's the greatest adventure you've been on?" before, but I know you really don't care if I, skinny bespectacled Asian man, have rolled around on stage in nothing but my underwear (I have), or if my friends have bungee jumped off of Victoria Falls (they haven't). But when my hot Persian friend comes over to say hey, "hello I'm _______" works a lot better than "let me finish talking about my greatest adventure"!
I respect the courage man. The fine tuning, not so much there yet, but who am I to talk? This Super Bowl Sunday, my Bud goes to you, Mr. Hollywood Blvd. Asian Pickup Artist Man.
When I come across one I feel shame-by-proxy. Not idea why, not my scene, but know enough to spot it.
I was out a few months ago at a rooftop bar solo. I befriended some guy who was out hitting on girls and we went out for a sec to smoke a cigarette. These two guys ask to bum a cig and the guy I befriended gives them one. We start talking about these two women across from us and one of the two guys goes ,"So, you guys are gonna open those girls over there?" Dead giveaway. So I asked him if he's read any pickup related stuff and I was right about it. I've consciously tried to remove any pua related terms from my vocabulary so I guess I'm really conscious of when another person uses them.
I once saw a guy dressed like Mistery. Fuzzy hat, glasses on top and I'm almost sure he had painted his nails
The nails may be a trick from my memory.
The most pathetic case I've met is a friend who often quotes lines from Mistery's handbook but is actually incapable of approaching girls or do anything for himself. He's been on the dole for 4 years and doesn't seem to connect the dots between lifestyle, responsibility and attracting women... Or actually earning his living, since I and others tried helping him get a job, to no avail.
haha I have
All of a sudden he turns to the table next to us and says "hey guys do you think facebook is for dating". Two minutes later he says "oh I'm just a virign and I wanted to ask"
FUCK!!!!
My favorite example of this happened up in Boston years ago. There was a local guy who was basically a Mystery clone -- fuzzy top hat, goggles, rings on every finger, big shiny coats, everything. He was super weird and he came to most of my talks from 2007 to 2009.
In 2009, I lived with my girlfriend for about six months, and there was an old dive bar across the street from our apartment that we would eat dinner at together some times. We were there on like a Tuesday night or something, the place was pretty empty. We were both in like sweat shirts and shorts, flip flops, eating burgers or something. And then I see the fuzzy top hat guy come in. Behind him was some fat nerdy guy in like a shiny velvet blazer and a bunch of necklaces. And sure enough, they start going around the bar opening EVERYONE. He's grabbing girls and picking them up and trying to twirl them in the middle of this casual, quiet bar at like 8PM... he looked like a total jackass.
So he makes it all the way around the bar and then spots me and my girlfriend eating together. He comes over to our table and I guess assumes that I'm "gaming" her and decides he's going to social proof me or something because he launches into every cheesy routine in the book:
- He accomplishment intro'd me to my own girlfriend.
- Told her how he and I were GREAT friends and how we went WAY back.
- Pulled out his camera and made her take a picture of us.
- Told her that she was lucky to be hanging out with me
Around this point she and I are just laughing because it's getting so ridiculous, and she starts making sarcastic comments to him while laughing. He then got really quiet and awkward for a second. You could tell he didn't know what to say next (no routine for it I guess), and then said he "has to meet someone" and left the bar.
I actually got kind of mad, not because he was doing routines and crap, but because I felt like he was being rude -- interrupting our dinner, not introducing himself to her or finding out how she and I knew each other. She thought it was funny though. Although she did double-check to make sure that I didn't *actually* know him and that he wasn't a student of mine.
I knew I had a funny story somewhere on my computer. Maybe it's not going to be as funny for you guys, but if you happenned to be there (me & my friend), it was hilarious.
It's quite long, but I think you should be able to read it fluently.
Some of the pu-vocabulary you will find in this post: fun close, f-close, slut theory, attraction trigger, pumping state, frame battles, amogging, Russia dating.
So me and an old friend of mine decided to go out at day x. We meet, and he has brought another friend of him along. Now it doesn’t take me very long to realize that this guy is even a tiny bit weird, and that he’s severely trying to compensate for his lack of knowledge in other areas of life.
theory number 1: all women want sex more than men and all they do is jump from one cock to another.
He says to us “hey you will know what I mean when you’ve had sex with 10 women” only to back up his claim with a story from a tourist he managed to have sex with. We say that those 10 women aren’t really a representative of the entire population. He goes on and says “this is scientifically a representative survey”. I say to him “no that’s not, for that you will need at least 30 women (true) and it will depend a lot on how you have selected your cases”. So we challenge him and say “ok, so 30 women that should be doable tonight right? Come on buddy why don’t you approach 30 women and see how it works out”. He’s now put in the defense and he says “hey I’ve already approached one girl tonight, how about you? (see later on for the approach). Big sign: a huge emphasis on approaching
theory number 2: whether or not a women has a boyfriend doesn’t matter at all. The only thing that is necessary is that you can trigger attraction inside her. Yes, he explicitly used the word “attraction trigger”.
He says that women simply aren’t capable of handling their emotions well, and that the minute they meet an “alpha” (oh GOD the A-word), they let it go. Now I’m not stupid and I’m not going to claim that there are no women like that, hey I’ve met a couple of nutcases myself. But on the other hand I also know girls who are now in an 8 year lasting relationship with their boyfriend. These girls are about my age (23), very sexy and quite sweet actually.
So far the theory part. Let’s go to the fun part: his behavior.
For some reason the conversation topic was going about dating and we ended up talking about netlog eventually. He said that he mainly used that for dating (highly doubt he was successful). Then suddenly out of nowhere he blurts out his opener to some girls who were sitting on a table next to us “hey girls do you guys think that netlog is for dating?”. My buddy and I start cracking up and we make fun of him.
Several conversations topics later, he engages the girls again with some other random line and in the middle of the conversation he says “oh I wanted to ask because I’m only a virgin”. HINT: if girls already think you’re weird, calling yourself a virgin is only making things worse. So our crew moves on to another bar. In the meantime he says that he wasn’t quite amused by our behavior and that we were stealing his frame and amogging him all the time. My buddy’s and mine response was: “dude you were amogging yourself”.
Later we decide to go to “music café”, this is a pretty cool place and since it wasn’t very crowded, we ended up having a lot of fun. So we have only been there for 10 minutes while all of a sudden he says “hey I’m going to check out the student association bars”, we are all like “why can’t you stay with us”. I guess he wanted to practice some game, as if you can’t approach women in the bar we were staying that night. Some hours later we send him a text “hey how is it going over there, sure you don’t want to come over?”. His response: “no man I’m doing amazing sets over here, the only thing that needs to be fixed is my state and I’m pumping it right now”. Highly doubt he was actually talking to girls.
While in music café a tall Brazilian girl approaches us and we have fun, she eventually ask me for my number so that later that evening we can meet again. When we tell our story to him, his mouth falls wide open.
moral of the story: if you are more concerned with using “game vocabulary” than actually meeting girls, you seriously need to reconsider yourself.
Mark that is pretty hilarious, I'm sure you've had your share of weirdos follow you since you are a professional dating coach. Interrupting someone's dinner is pretty rude IMO and rarely turns out positive (unless it's a quick "I love your work!" or something like that in passing, and even then it's better to do it after they're done).
crazyhorse Wrote:moral of the story: if you are more concerned with using “game vocabulary” than actually meeting girls, you seriously need to reconsider yourself.
I believe the actual quote for this is "you better check yo self before you wreck yo self"