finding the best

[Mark]

No worries... Re-reading, I may have gotten a bit touchy (it's very late here).

You probably do have a point with the profession thing... it is on the more shallow side of reasons to screen for a partner. But in this case, their demographic is inseparable from their job.

Shrug... but then again, it wouldn't be the first time I've been a little shallow... lol.
Either way, it's not something I'm pursuing rigorously. Just something I'm keeping in the back of my mind heading into the new year. We'll see what happens.

[8_Ball]

lol

Shallow or not, you do have definitely good reasons for dating an international model and I wish you good luck for finding the right one!

[omni]

Porno,
No, I'm off the porn train. But I get what you're talking about. Sometimes I ponder where the line between knowing what I like and being way too picky should be. And BTW, I've seen article after article and study after study talking about how porn and masturbation can be VERY counterproductive. I even saw that stuff before I found Mark's site. Turns out there was something to the Sunday school teaching after all, I guess (this is a joke, not my attempt to open a religious discussion).

And I can see how it looks, but trust me, I have very little patience for poor attitudes. My thinking is that if I meet more very attractive women, I have that much more of a chance of meeting a few of the rare ones that also have the personality and character to match.

[omni]

IdEngager and Mark.

You guys speak the truth. I can see that I was maybe hoping to find some magic place that doesn't exist, just like guys sometimes search for the magic line that never fails. I guess my major frustration is that now that I can see my value--and now that I'm enjoying my life and where it's headed--I can't seem to communicate this to women as well as I'd like. I guess the old me still seeps out when I'm not paying attention. I think the Emotional Needs article hit it on the head. I'm getting it together on paper, but I'm missing the emotional content. Now that I know what to look for, I can tell where the attractive women I do meet are deciding that they don't feel it. Hopefully this will improve with time and as my lifestyle improves over the coming months. I just figured that if I surround myself with gorgeous women, the numbers game would eventually have to work in my favor. Makes sense, right?

Mark,
I'd love to hear more about your model pursuits. I'm committing to travelling more (beginning with a surf trip to Brazil this winter) and would love to learn from your insights. You mention that athletes have natural demographic connections with models. Does anyone else (non-celebrities, I mean)?

In the meantime, I guess I just need to work the day game. That way I'm ready to for the opportunities when they come. Speaking of day game, I think I can add a word of encouragement to some. Mark and others are absolutely right when they stress that knowing doesn't count until you add actual experience. I sat and read for months, but it wasn't until I actually said "I think you're really beautiful, I'd like to spend more time with you," that it clicked. When I saw the half shocked, half flattered look on her face, it began to fall into place. The stuff is powerful when you use it correctly. My issue is thinking too much which invariably leads to some combination of inaction and self-doubt. But enough about me....

[Mark]

Photographers. Fashion industry peeps.

[IdEngager]

Yea, the photographers I know meet a ridiculous amount of girls. It does suck sometimes though, instead of actually getting to party, you're really working during one, at least most of the time. I guess that really applies to bartenders, musicians, and other people working the nightlife too.

[omni]

Mark Wrote:I'd like to challenge myself to date an international professional model. I think if I spend enough time in the right cities, and make some connections in the right clubs, I'll have some in's. My knowledge of languages (Spanish, Portuguese, Russian) will be a major help as well.

It'll be fun. I've dated quite a few part-time and local models. I've never dated a full-time international model. It's honestly probably the last thing on my sexual bucket list that I haven't done yet.

Mark,

Would you please expound on this? This is actually not too far from the challenge that led to my starting this thread. This sounds like what I was hoping for. I realize that you've already given quite a lot of general information that's applicable (thank you). But I'd love to hear more specifics. I'm even amenable to possibly buying a product from you if it addresses this directly.

Specifics on the part-time and local models are more than appreciated as well. I want to take things to the next level too. I like big challenges, and (maybe this is a bad thing) researching and planning my strategy to reach my goals is half the fun. You, Sir, have valuable intel. Learning specifics about how you've dated part-time/local models in the past and how you plan to meet and date higher-profile models in the future can't help but be instructive. It'll help me with my own bucket list. Thanks in advance.