The " Women are ALL whores" discussion

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It's whatever you want it to be. It's an anonymous penis. Obviously they can leave. I'm just saying... Every woman would go at it eventually.

[Creatine Dreams]

What if they have a boyfriend or husband that they love?

[Mark]

(06-22-2012 07:44 PM)c-minus Wrote:  It's whatever you want it to be. It's an anonymous penis. Obviously they can leave. I'm just saying... Every woman would go at it eventually.

...... so?

You could say the same thing about men. Any man locked in a room with an anonymous vagina would eventually hit it....

What point are you trying to make here? That humans like to have sex? That husbands should keep their wives away from locked rooms with glory holes? That all women like sex given the right circumstances?

You're not blowing anybody's minds here.

From: http://postmasculine.com/the-madonnawhore-complex

Quote:Generally, any sort of animosity towards female sexuality, belief that certain women are sluts, whores, bitches, skanks, etc. are typical signs of the Madonna/Whore Complex in action. Obviously, it varies widely from man to man, but anything from a shrewd comment about some bitch in a short skirt, to saying you’d never touch a girl because she sucked some guy’s cock in the club bathroom, to going into violent rages at girlfriends over the most minuscule issues are common manifestations.

The philosophical problem with the Madonna/Whore Complex is that it’s a double-standard and it’s misogynistic. It’s basically saying that feminine sexuality should be controlled and squelched, that women who are overtly or freely sexual are somehow morally inferior, while masculine sexuality should be allowed to roam free. Women have far deeper and more complex sexualities than men and to try to limit them from expressing it is flat out prejudice.

It’s a double-standard because as men, we want women to be openly sexual with us — we want them to have the threesome with us, we want them to blow us in the movie theater, we want them to fuck us in the dressing room at H&M — but as soon as they do it with another guy, they’re a fucking skanky-bitch-ass-slut-whore and no fucking way would I ever go near her, she’s probably got herpes or something.

It’s the mere masculine jealousy and insecurity around the feminine affection — again, handed down at childhood — playing itself out in courtship.

If you don’t buy the philosophical argument against the M/W Complex, here’s the pragmatic argument: women aren’t going to be sexually open with a guy who judges and criticizes women for being sexually open. You know that PUA concept of Last-Minute-Resistance (LMR)? Or their so-called Anti-Slut Defense (ASD) thing? You need to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. Things like “LMR” don’t exist if you’re able to make a woman feel sexually comfortable and open around you. Often this requires little more than an open and candid conversation about sexual experiences and expectations without showing any judgment whatsoever. Once she sees that she can tell you about the time she cheated on her boyfriend in college, or the time she got drunk and had a threesome with her roommate and her roommate’s boyfriend, and you don’t freak out or call her a whore or laugh at her, chances are she’s not going to think twice when it comes time to sleep with you.

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(06-22-2012 07:51 PM)Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2012 07:44 PM)c-minus Wrote:  It's whatever you want it to be. It's an anonymous penis. Obviously they can leave. I'm just saying... Every woman would go at it eventually.

...... so?

You could say the same thing about men. Any man locked in a room with an anonymous vagina would eventually hit it....

What's your point? That humans like to have sex? That husbands should keep their wives away from locked rooms with glory holes?

Then all men are whores too.

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That's just being human then I suppose right. Our primal instincts.

[Mark]

(06-22-2012 07:55 PM)c-minus Wrote:  Then all men are whores too.

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That's just being human then I suppose right. Our primal instincts.

And is there anything morally wrong with having those drives?

[Chaos]

In fact I disagree with the assumption. I'd say the vast majority of women will pass and the same goes for men. I don't know about you but if I'm in a room and some random vagina is there (not a girl, just the hole and her cunt) and I have the option to leave I'd leave, no doubt in my mind.

After all if I WANT to be in that position I would go to a place that dispense that kind of services, be it paid or consensual (some swinger clubs have something similar, though not equal). So if I'm going then it's kind of logical for me to do it...

[SeXyBaCk]

Like so often... I don't get it.

So practising oral sex makes one a whore? Okay.

then + 1 me.

Besides how on earth would you ... fuck someone through a hole in a wall? That's hideous. Cock burn anyone? That don't even work. I figured my cock is quite big, but how much would actually still be penetrating to be pleasurable? Is this a cardboard wall? Then anyone would just tear it up and go at it properly. Totally nonsensical this from start to finish this. Doesn't come close to Schrödinger's pussy.

Isn't a whore someone who gets paid for sex? The calling whore stigma is down to guys not getting laid being pissed off at others who are getting laid.

Also have you ever seen swinger clubs on tv? Get real, only the obese/old guys clad in leather seem to gravitate to swinger clubs.

[Dragonslayer]

(06-23-2012 06:32 PM)SeXyBaCk Wrote:  Get real, only the obese/old guys clad in leather seem to gravitate to swinger clubs.

That depends on the kind of swinger club. This is probably too for many of them, but there are also higher end clubs, who don't cater to people who can't get laid otherwise, but to couples who are looking for some variety. Of course, those establishments never appear on TV, as they won't allow and film crew to film their guests.

[Creatine Dreams]

Ain't nothing glorious about a glory hole.