Spikes journal/FR

[Mountainman]

(08-26-2012 12:35 PM)Spikes Wrote:  8/25/12



I was having a conversation with one of my good girl friends at the party. I don't know how this came up but she told me that "you are hot but you have no game"she didn't know it but that affected me a bit. And I felt like giving up. Then again she doesn't know what I've been doing, that I've gotten a bit better from before but she is still essentially right. And I know she's trying to help me. Still doesn't help my moral though. 

Maybe she's just pissed off because you do have game but just aren't using it on her.

[TheImptuous]

Look, maybe she's right. What do you think and why? And how can it help you get better?

[Spikes]

Moutainman, naw she's made it clear shes not interested but it's fine I'm not interested either. @theimptous I think I understand something my other friend cleared it up. Most of the time these past few days, Ive been talking to girls I know who've already rejected me. So it's like I'm trying to win then over so I'm wasting time. I should be talking to girls I don't know. And with girls I know and am attracted to I should make it clear that the door is always open if they want it. It's always been about my intentions I haven't been showing it very well lately.

[Spikes]

8/28/12

Saw cute girl at cafeteria, went up to her told her she was cute, talked to he for a bit said I wanted to hang with her and invite her to a party going on later got her number.

There are other approaches later that night but it
Was all girls I knew.

End notes:
Still working on pushing interaction, and workin on refining what I know.

[Spikes]

8/31/12

Went to a music festival, first girl I was really forward and she dancing with me. A few minutes later I find out she had a boyfriend. So I kissed her on the cheek and left.

Second girl i looked at her she looked a me from afar I didn't break contact with her until I got close to her. I was really forward with her too she responded equally well. We danced for a while. this was gonna be easy but her bored friend ruined it by grabbing her becau she wanted to get closer to the stage.

The next girl I was forward with again to, she asked me a few questions about myself. I tried to get her to dance with me but she was there with her friends and didn't want to.

9/1/12

Went day drinking , ran into a girl A cute girl. I was Forward with her too. Kissed for a bit and got her number.

9/2/12

Called the girl from the other day to meet up at a bar later that night. I was hanging with my friends. There were 2 girls I knew I could confidently get with that night, but I didn't because I was gonna meet up with the girl from before. I screwed up though because I got too drunk and never ended up meeting with her. I'm setting up another meeting with her.

End notes:
I've learned that I seriously get in my own way when it comes to girls. I literally self sabatoge myself unconsciously. And im starting to think its because i still dont think i deserve the victories. Good  news that I realize this now.

[Spikes]

9/6/12

Last night my frat had a party. Tonight was different than usual because it appeared I had three options that night. A girl I was trying to talk to that night, the girl I met at the day drink, and finally a girl I had been with before. For the party I hung out with the first girl all night and things were working out but she left with her friends at the end. It's cool
She wants to hang again and her friends were talkin about how I was cute and built. From there I texted the girl from the day drink what she was doing that night. She was at the bar. So I tried to get her to hang out with me. She took too long to respond so I texted the last girl on the list she was down to hang out so she came over and had sex. She comlimented me on my size (haha confidence booster)

End notes:
It's a lot better to text multiple girls at the same time so in case one falls through another probably won't

I don't feel so accomplished because I wanted I get with one of the other girls I was aiming for.

Social proof can make your life easier or harder depending on where you stand.

[Spikes]

9/9/12
tonight I woke up at 12:10am today I was so comfortable with sleeping that I almost didn't go out. but I knew if I didn't go out and try to hookup with someone I would be disappointed in myself so I went to a party my frat was hosting.

I went downstairs to the dance floor and see this cute blond girl, walk up to her tell her I think she's cute and asked her what her name was Kaitlin. She asked me what her name was. From there I asked if she wanted to dance. from there within 12 minutes we were making out. I was with her for the most part of the night. I even tried to get her to come to my house but she said no (hey at least I tried). But there was a point later in the night that she became to drunk so I found her friends returned her to them then left up stairs to hang out with more people.

immediately going outside I see the girl that I wanted to get with (who I talk about in length in the very beginning of my journal). She hanging out with one of my brothers. I'm talking to them for a bit then my friend invites me to smoke with them. In the back of my head I was kind of annoyed that he was with her because I tried so often but I gave up because I figured that our personalities in the sense of getting with each other just didn't mix. But I have to realize that if I'm not going try to get her, others will, and I have to be okay with this. still I got the feeling that she was trying to make me jealous. before we left both of them kept telling me to find another girl, pick her up and then smoke with them. either way I went back with them, after that I went back to the party to hang some more.

By this time it was getting late, but I ended up talking to a few girls. there was one I was kind of interested. but two things happened. my friend really wanted her and kept complaining about how I was distracting her (lol right) but someone along the conversation I found out she wasn't my type. (she was a virgin plus she doesn't smoke) so I handed her off to my friend.

end notes:

I can see a pattern if a girl is interested now. It's more like a feeling or intuition now.

even though I hooked up with a girl tonight (something that if maybe three months ago would make me happy) I don't feel accomplished for two reasons. First I didn't talk to her much to get her to make out with me. Also I was more interested in the girl that I had tried to get with earlier in the summer.

I've noticed that I have an accomplishment thing with girls. I'm not satisfied about it if it's a girl I've been with before or if I feel like I didn't put enough effort to hook up with her (or maybe if I don't have sex with the girl I hook up with I haven't figured it out yet)

[Spikes]

9/13/12
I'm feeling good lately. Right now I have 2 definite prospects and one girl that's on the fence. This has helped me because I'm a lot less needy. Things have started to click.

My frat had a social last night. I immediately started talking to girls it was a great time. I think the only regret I had last night was not talking to the hottest girl there. But I was already making good progress with an attractive girl. I hung out with her all night and she was feeling it. She even came back to my house. And guess what it turned out she had a boyfriend damn. That sucks an entire night wasted. There was also another less attractive girl that was all over me but I didn't go for her because I wanted better. Too bad maybe next time.

9/14/12

On the way to work a cute girl asked me for directions. It turned our where she was going was on the way for me so I told her to walk with me. Her name was Victoria. I got to know her while we walked for 10 mins. She seemed pretty interested. All the classic signs. playing with her hair, asked me what my name was again, asked me a bunch of questions about me, responded well to push pull. So naturally at the end of the walk I tell her I think she cute and we should hang out some time. Aaaaand she has a boyfriend lol dammit

End notes: 
I'm starting to feel confident in my abilities

The boyfriend thing is sooooo annoying

[Spikes]

9/18/12

my frat had a pregame tonight. I met one girl and I talked to her for a while she was feeling me then her friend came. she was also interested. I was less interested though. I couldn't talk to both of them so I grabbed one of my friends to help wing man me. unfortunately he didn't realize I was trying to talk to the blonde girl so I was stuck talking to the other one. she was cool, she just wasn't my type. And for the first time in my life I found myself looking around trying to end the conversation. It didn't take very long my friend ended up losing the girl I was interested in she grabbed the girl I was talking to and I was free again

from there I saw this girl who I thought looked like girlfriend material. So I introduce myself, and she was very receptive. entire time I was thinking this is it, I was so excited. we ended up hanging out for the rest of the pregame. I was leading her, touching her, etc. and of course I find out right before we go to the bar that she already has a boyfriend.

end notes:

I realize now that when girls tell you early on that they have a boyfriend that's really helping you out because it doesn't waste your time. literally the last 3 approaches have ended in boyfriends after more than an hour of investment.....

bright side is I don't have the same problem I had talking to girls anymore like I had a few months ago

[Spikes]

9/28/12
So today I went to happy hour with a few of my friends. I was talking to one of my friends who is into the whole pick up thing and he's been helping me out with a few concepts. 3 things that he's been telling me is about decisiveness, patients, and persistence. He helped me kind of understand a phenomenon that happened to me a few weeks ago when I was on my internship. When I say decisiveness I mean if you like a girl you have to lay it all on the floor every act that you do you have to completely mean it. for example when I was being "spikes" a few weeks ago women responded well to me because I was all about what I wanted. I showed that I was all about hooking up and even if the girl wasn't interested they were weak in the knees. anyways he pointed out 2 girls behind me and told me not to come back without a phone number. I walk up to one of them and tell them I think she is cute and I wanted to get to know her. She responded well asked me what my name was and from there we had a good conversation. She actually likes a lot of the things that I like and she is mixed (probably my favorite type of woman). From there I told her we should hang out sometime and she agreed so I got her number. my friend helped wing manning me and got the other girls number.

end notes:
I just realized that since coming to school I've been trying a less direct strategy which has sucked for me. when I was at my internship and just told girls I thought they were cute I was more successful. plus since coming to school every time I've went with the direct approach I always either got a number or made out with someone, which means I'm going back to this strategy.

I also need to work on being patient with women when setting up dates. I was always impatient so whenever they would flake I would immediately cut them, but I'm going to work on this. and I also have to work on my persistence. if one time I set up a date with a girl and it didn't work or we had difficulties I always ejected. not anymore.

I have realized that I have to work on my mid game, because I've spent most of my time picking up girls and not dating them .

I also have to work on my beliefs because the belief that I can't get with girls definitely fucks with my decisiveness, because sometimes I my instincts tell me exactly what I need to do but I don't do it because of my beliefs sometimes.

[Dionysus]

I'm happy you posted. I enjoy reading your journal. If one more day had passed I would've asked you for an update.

[Spikes]

Thanks a lot Dionysus ! I appreciate that.

9/29/12
Tonight my frat had a party and I was going to invite one of the girls that I was talking to. But two of my friends that have been helping me with this told me to invite every girl I was talking to. I asked why, and they told me that inviting only one of them is inefficient because if you invite one girl at a time and the girl ends up flaking or not being able to come other girls may have other plans by then. Then I asked “wouldn’t the girl I was talking to seeing me talking to another girl I was talking to a bad thing?” they said no because it would make me look good and have them pursue me instead. So I invited every girl I was talking to. Sure enough pretty much every girl I invited couldn’t come or flaked. I was just going to hang out with my friends for the rest of the night but sure enough one of the girls I invited came. So I hung out with her and her friend for most of the night. Towards the end of the night it was pretty clear she wanted to hook up, especially because her friend kept on saying she wanted to leave but she would find an excuse to stay longer. At one point her friend ended up going to the bathroom and that’s when I made my move. I got her in my lap we started kissing she then told me that we couldn’t hook up with her friend around because her friend sees her as a girl who didn’t hook up. So from there I got one of my friends to talk to her friend. From there I invited them back to my place to smoke hookah now that I think about it I should have invited my girl back to my room but her friend ended up making that impossible.

10/1/12
Today I was just thinking about decisiveness and what my friend was telling me. The other night he told me he said that if I wanted to become what I wanted to be when it came to women, I had to be a machine when it came to picking them up. I have to take every opportunity I can get and told me that he tries for 6 numbers a week. That makes sense based on my friend’s strategy of rapidly filtering through girls. Anyways while I was thinking about it one of the cute girls in my class was sitting on the bench. I’ve been trying to talk to her but never had any good opportunities until now. So I walk up to her start talking about the test we just had. Then I had nothing to say. It was crazy a few months ago I would have ejected and been like nice to meet you, but instead I just sat there until I had something to say. Literally 10 seconds passed lol but I asked her a question about one of our assignments, and from there I got to know her. She even said she was surprised at how much she told me about herself. From there I suggested that we meet up and study sometime and got her number.

End notes:
I noticed I touch when I flirt with girls without thinking and I'm getting better at

EDIT:
So I've counted and it turns out that I've roughly approached or had relations with 115 women since I started this journal! Just a random side note.

[Dionysus]

Yes, I'm liking this. The way your transformation is taking place. Slowly but surely you're chipping away at your old self.

[Spikes]

10/5/12
Tonight I threw a party for my frat at my house with another sorority. When the party started I ran into a girl I knew. We caught up and talked for a while, and I could tell she was interested. All I had to do was lead the interaction. I was making progress when my brothers told me I had to deal with a problem outside of the party. Earlier in the day I caught someone in the act of sneaking into out house and trying to steal our laptops. My brothers told me to come outside to see if the guy they saw was the same person I saw stealing. Anyways I told her I would be right back, but I never did.

When I dealt with the issue I saw this girl I knew. We were friends. She wanted to hang out with me and my roommate so we went upstairs to smoke hookah. While we were doing it this sexy red head walked into the room to join us. I immediately started talking to her, I could tell she was interested but it turned out she was kind of involved with another guy. She started talking about him to her friend, so I decided I wasn't going to be put on the back burner and went down stairs.

I went down to the basement were everyone was dancing. Here I found a cute blonde girl and started talking to her. I started flirting with her and we eventually started dancing. However something happened to her friend so she had to leave and I forgot to get her number whoops lol

I wasn't by myself for long. the red headed girl I had been talking to came down stairs, then we started talking again. Then at one point I tried to get her to dance with me. At first she was like I like to dance alone, dance parallel to me. however soon enough she came to dance with me. Her friend then started to talk to her about something while we were dancing. I over head a bit. the girl I was dancing with said something like its not cheating, were just dancing. I guess she was with that dude haha oh well. I was still with her for most of the night and when she left I got her number.

Around the time the party was over my friend who knows about pickup brought two girls from a different sorority to my place. I knew both of them. at this point of the night it was me, my friend who knew pickup, and one of my roommates with the two girls. it was a pretty awkward ratio. we were hanging out and the cuter one was showing interested. she kept kissing me on the cheek. my friend told me to take her, however at the point of the night I started kind of felt nervous about escalating I don't know why. I soon regretted the hesitation because my friend who told me to take her took her. I wasn't mad he was teaching me a lesson. If I hesitated someone wont hesitate and get the girl.

After that it was my friend Jon and I with the less cute girl. we both had an equal shot, but I had more of an edge. However my flaw was I tried to go for both girls a the same time instead of focusing on one. both of my friends focused on each individual girl and by the time I decided on the less cute girl my friend had more of an in. my friend who knew pick up told me there was no reason I lost to my friend other than hesitating. This lesson served me well especially for the next day.

10/6/12
Today my frat had a tailgate that I went to. When I got there I started hanging out with friends and meeting a few girls. one of the girls I met was an Asian/Irish girl. She was really cute. I got to know her and eventually told her I thought she was cute. She smiled but said she didn't like being complimented. She hung out with me more and I noticed she had beautiful eyes. She smiled again and said she was bad at receiving compliments. then I told her that she should start receiving them. some time down the line I invited to go to yoga with me the next day and got her number. This was a pretty sealed deal.

That was until I ran into a girl I knew for a while. I talked to her for a while and caught up with her. she started to flirt with me. this confused me because last time I knew she had a boyfriend. So I asked a question about her boyfriend, and turned out she broke up with him. From there I wasted no time. I started to dance with her. unfortunately the other girl I was talking to saw this, she didn't look very happy I saw her leave without saying goodbye. I'm still gonna call her, you never know. while dancing with my friend, i kissed her. I invited her to my place and we hooked up.

edit:
I forgot but earlier in the tailgate I met another girl, from a different sorority and talked to her for a while flirted a what not and got her number. I don't know why that one slipped my mind lol.
end notes:
I think I'm started to get consistency when I pick up.

I think it's a great advantage to hang out with guys who are good with girls because they rub off on you

I think I've started to find my assets with pickup and have been using them more

I don' think as much about what I have to do when I pick up anymore I just do things and I can't remember everything I do anymore.

[TheImptuous]

(10-07-2012 02:29 PM)Spikes Wrote:  10/5/12
I think I'm started to get consistency when I pick up.

I swear, it was like four weeks ago that you were complaining about inconsistency, lol.

[Spikes]

lol I've been adjusting my game, I'm not gonna lie and say that my aim is near perfect but I gather some interest and get numbers every time I ask. Plus I get hard on myself when I don't do well, but I've hooked up with someone almost every week since i've been in school. My new problem is flaking and getting girls to hang out.

[Spikes]

10/11/12
last night my frat had a social with another sorority. I started talking to this girl who transfered from texas a&m. she was feeling me, but I made the biggest mistake of my life, letting her talk to one of my friends for too long. after that she was gone.

next was a girl who I had seen before in my class. I thought it was an easy in, so I escalated and even tried to get her to come to my place. Apparently I didn't get enough investment. I kind of got annoyed with this and left. I think I should have been more patient and got her number.

next girl was also interested at least at first. I actually saw her earlier that day when I was doing a dance number. she said I was a good dancer. The fear of police being in the front of the house stopped that interaction (can't get a break).

my final girl I talked to was outside. She was also interested. Another girl interjected in the middle of our conversation to say she thought I was sexy (I should have just went for her), that stroked my ego lol. anyways I got her to come dance with me. However she stopped me for a second to say that we couldn't make out or anything because she was involved with another guy ( I've been getting alot of those lately). either way I danced with her and got her number, but the number might as well be useless from my previous experience.
end notes:

what I posted about yesterday is definitely apparent now. I don't have problems with talking, flirting, or escalating anymore its all about building trust and getting them to hang out with me I guess.

I have to be more patient with girls if I went more slowly I bet I could get more trust. I don't have to have sex every night I go out.

never ever ever ever let a girl you are talking to out of your sight for more than 5 seconds

[shadow]

I don't know man. You seem to be making shit way too complicated. If you are a normal guy who has friends and reasonable social skills, here is all you need to do:

1) Look good - workout and dress well
2) Tell the girl that you like her
3) Ask her out

That's it. Rinse repeat. Ad nauseam.

[Spikes]

I agree I learned this recently lol

So the past 2 or three weeks have been kind of a blur so I'm just going to give a short recap:

So I don't know who here watches how I met your mother but I got into a slapbet with 3 of my friends. Essentially a slapbet is when you make a bet on something and the loser gets to slap the other person. I made a slap bet with my friends saying that I could hook up with 2 girls by 3am on friday of last week. Long story short I got my first girl the sunday we made the bet. Then I got the other literally on friday at 2:30am. my friends were so mad lol. anyways I think this was the push that I needed to get better with girls, because I had issues in the past showing my intentions. Since doing this I've improved quite a bit. Literally all that needs to be done is telling the girl that you find her attractive then after that theres not much you can do as @shadow said before. Also within the span of that week I've gained a rack of numbers.

10/26/12

my frat had a halloween party tonight. before this I made a bet that I could hook up with this one girl before my friend could. unfortunatley for him he had to go home that weekend so I had the clear advantage. pretty much I kept on telling her that I thought she was attractive the whole night then she caved and we kissed for a bit. she wanted to go to the bar with me after but I kind of wanted to stay so I let her go. between that I got another number, then one of the girls I was hooking up called me and wanted to hang out so I slept over at her place.

1027/12
tonight my frat had another halloween party. For this I pregamed with my friends and some girls. I got clear interest from one girl and was walking arm and arm to our party. but lost her (should of got her number ) but when we got to the party I met other girls. Finally one girl made it pretty easy for me so we started hooking up then I took her back to my place. She didn't want to have sex and I was kind of blown about that, but one of the other girls I was hooking up with texted me saying she wanted to hang out so I told the girl I was hooking up with that I was tired and about to go to sleep, walked her home, picked up the other girl, took her back to my place then hooked up (whoops..)

end notes:
I really think that being around people who are good with women is probably the best teacher out there

my friends taught me to always go for numbers, approach furiously, let the girl you are talking to know you are interested within the first 10 minutes you talk to her and thats pretty much it.

strangely I thought that hooking up with girls would do something for me, It's made me a bit more confident but it hasn't done nearly as much as I thought. maybe I have to go for hotter girls, but at this point I doubt that's going to solve anything

EDIT:
also when hooking up with girls, communication is key. It helps you and them out when you know what they like and they know what you like

[Davey]

Just read through this whole thread while I had the chance. The progress you've made in such a short amount of time is remarkable, dude. I love your motivation and your bulldog attitude. You just keep going for it over and over. Gotta love that.

(10-28-2012 01:28 PM)Spikes Wrote:  strangely I thought that hooking up with girls would do something for me, It's made me a bit more confident but it hasn't done nearly as much as I thought. maybe I have to go for hotter girls, but at this point I doubt that's going to solve anything

You've gotta learn to tie your emotional well being/self-confidence to something other than hooking up with girls. It took me a long time to learn this and I'm still working on it. Learn to be happy with YOU and be the best version of yourself you can be. Hooking up with girls is great, but nothing beats loving who you are as a person.

[TheImptuous]

Spikes, all you've done here is to improve in one area in your life. It's an area that a lot of dudes don't even bother with, so mazel tov on that. But now, realize that it's only part of a larger puzzle. What you've developed is not just a skill, but a gift. You just have to find out what other gifts you can give to yourself in order to feel fulfilled.

[Spikes]

Thanks guys I realize what you guys are saying and I think you guys are right, I'm going to start working on that.

I just had a realization over the past few days. I'm starting to set boundaries and explicitly telling it to the girls I am with or trying to get with. because of this the girls start investing more in me. before this I would kind of go with what the girl wanted because I didn't want to lose her. This seems to be a pretty big factor because girls that were kind of dancing around about hanging out have completely started giving me more interest.

I think that the two big factors in game are completely showing your intentions, and showing your boundaries

[Spikes]

So I've been pretty busy so I haven't been posting in a while so I'm gonna summarize

since my last post, I've been hooking up with one girl consistently so I haven't been out as much. but I've been back at it lately. since it's been a while I don't remember the days so I'll just do a few. Mind you I have also approached a lot more girls than i'm gonna post. I just don't remember the interaction or it didn't go anywhere.

This was a pretty interesting one. one night I go to the bar with my friend. I was chilling and talking to people that I knew until my friend comes over with two girls. One he was working on and the other one he wanted me to take. no problem were a pretty good tag team. So I start talking to her and I realize that it was going to be really easy. within 5 minutes my arms are around her waist. we go back to my friends place to seal the deal. I was ready to start hooking up with her as soon as my friends pulled the trigger but he never did. it sucked my girl was ready to go and her friend asked her if she wanted to leave but she really didn't want to leave. unfortunately we didn't have all night so the chance was blown. I ended up walking them both back home. when I do that I go back home blown that I didn't hook up that night. until I saw one girl I knew (let's call her Kelly) , I wasted no time. I asked her if she wanted to come back to my place to chill she said yes. So we went back to my place and after 5 minutes I attempt to kiss her. She moved back but she stayed so I would keep on trying every 5 minutes. the first time I did it she was surprised but after a point she got tried of it and left. the next morning I felt really embarrassed because I felt I was really aggressive and I thought I was rejected. The reason I tell this story is because of something that ended up happening weeks later that taught me something about persistence.

3 weeks ago we had a Christmas party at the frat house. While there I pretty much chilled with my brothers until a sexy light skinned girl got there. I immediately walk up to her introduced myself. she was with a group of friends. They were beckoning to leave but she said she would catch up (something I've realized is one of the biggest green light in the world) so I talk to her for a bit and before I let her get back to her friends I tell her that I think she really cute and would like to post game with her later so I get her number.

After reading art of seduction I decided to try something's i learned at a bartab at a bar with a sorority I knew. This was pretty funny because I must have been on fire. 30 minutes into a girl comes up to me and starts unbuttoning my shirt in front of her date and tells me "give the people what they want" lol Then another girl comes up and tries to kiss me. I was shocked by this so my immediate reactions was to move away ... whoops lol

this night happened before school was over. I ran into a girl I've been talking to for a while, I thought she was flaking so I gave up on her a long time ago but at the bar I run into her. I end up hanging out with her at the bar all night and at the end she asks if shell see me at new years. I saw she probably will. Then she kisses me before she leaves.

12/31/12

new years eve was pretty interesting. I started my night off at a pregame. There I met this girl who I've seen a few times let's call her K. So I talked with her for a bit. at some point she asked me what I was doing later that night and told me to text her If i went to the bar. so I got her number. From there I actually went to the bar but didn't see her so I went to a party. This was incidentally close to the new year. I wasn't paying attention so I was just chilling and talking to girls. Then my friend remained me about how you were supposed to kiss someone on new years eve so I was frantic. I only had 5 minutes left. This is when I remember there was a girl at the party that I knew would kiss me so I started looking for her. around the 15 second mark I started frantically looking for her. at the 3 second mark I found her and incidentally I also found the girl kelly that I aggressively tried to hook up with before from the previous report. this time I actually wanted to kiss the other girl but kelly's eyes were locked and I knew that she was going to be the kiss. So we ended up making out for a while actually (this has been a great learning experience because it made me realize that just because someone rejects you once and she still stays that means she's thinking about it now. how many opportunities have i passed because I was just scared of being rejected?). after this I go back to the bar with kelly and the other girl. When kelly isn't looking I tell the other girl that I really wanted her to be my new years kiss. So we end up kissing for a bit. After this I ditch them because I see K, the real girl I wanted to kiss that night. So we end up chilling and I ask her if she wants to be my new years kiss she says yes so Then I spend the rest of the night making out with K before the bar was closed.

end notes:

first time you go for a girl and they reject you it's not the end of the world, apparently you can still get them. after the first time you show interest they'll start thinking about it and the second time they may give you a shot. it's all about being persistent and not upset when they reject you.

[Spikes]

1/6/12

Tonight I went to hang out with some of my friends before going to the bar. When we get there I run into a few sorority girls that I know. Apparently I hooked up with one of their little's that new years eve (god I love sorority girls) apparently she was really excited about it. This lets me know that next time i see her I have it. funny thing though I know one of the girls in the sorotity pretty well and for some reason she has started flirting with me. I also I know I have her in the bag its all about the right time.

Other than this. I am chilling with one of my friends and he sees too really cute girls standing at the side of the bar. He tell me to take my pic and stat it up. so I go for the hotter brunette. I start getting to know her and she likes to travel and apparently was a very charitable person. So I get into discussion about where she's from. my buddy is impressed because this is the firs time he's seen me in action. it was pretty cool because I thought about how just 6 months ago this would have never been a possibility. We end up talking for a bit longer and I tell her that I want her number so she gives it to me.

Next I see this girl who I see at the bar every time I go there. This time i go u p and talk to her. I forget what we talked about but s we ended up making a secret hand shake, which I do for "kino".. After this I get her number

Later I met a few more girls and talk t I did make friends which is an important thing in college game to them . However it didn't go anywhere so .... oh well

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patients, persistence, the less you talk and the more you get them to talk, the better your chances