Shouldn't the point of "game" or "PUA" be to pick up all kinds of women? (my log)

[trader4life]

Women are just differe than men in my opinion in that regard. Men are just less likely to discriminate based on race and such, women are far more likely.

Women in general or white women? You said before that white guys have their pick of all races (in great detail), so therefore, non-white women are reciprocating advances by white men. So is this a gender thing or a white/non-white thing? I'm confused now.

After all, you want to date outside of your race as a non-white and I do too as a white guy. Girls from every other race want to date white guys to hear you tell it, so it is only white girls. You know how many white and non-white girls (American or not) prefer nothing but Black or Hispanic guys? Especially outside of the U.S.? When I was younger (early 20's) and lived in Japan (military) there were clubs I would go to with my "Black Friends" (let's keep the racist theme going here) where even "Tall white guys" (or even average and short ones) seldom got the time of day from Asian women. Does that mean the whole country was like that? Hell no, just the places I went from time to time and it never bothered me. Why? Because if they like or prefer Black guys, then so be it. I never took it personal and like an entire race of women was conspiring for me not to get laid by them.

[SeXyBaCk]

Let me break this down for you

This Dude

Any sort of female*Haircolour(+/- dye) / race = layrate going towards 0

Times have changed. Sure in the pat people got discriminated, I'm not saying it might not still be going on. But really, you should be better than have time for racism or discrimination. If a woman rejects you right off the bat, the moment you approach..well hell the vibes gotta be totally off. I doubt it's about race and hell if it is, you dodged a bullet with that one. What kind of women would that be? I've not had that experience but if I ever will I'll just put it down to BITCH and not waste another single second trying to figure out the in and outs of what happened. Proceed onward.

it's all down to you yourself not feeling comfortable with yourself and that's why you're externalising everything and projecting prejudices that are your own onto girls whose names you don't even know. man up and face the music already. You're going round in circles. And you're wasting time trying to figure out the exact demographics and what their racial prejudices are.

[Reesays]

Had the date, went pretty decent. Ate at a Chinese restaurant and talked about life and our goals in general. It ended with a kiss and she asked me to come over to her house. We just walked around and she showed me what was what in her garden, had some type of fish in a pond outside too. Went inside, kind of made out and were going to get farther before she heard a car in her driveway. It was her parents, she asked me to go for a bit longer and I did so. Then her parents arrived and we met, they said they wanted to have a word with her after I left.

She said she wants me to come to Athens (where she goes to college) or we need to meet up again sometime.

Oh boy! =/

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btw, admin, I googled you up, apparently you are SO GOOD that Puahate thinks you are legit, it says you banged "Erika", sorry to be so unaware but who is that?

I googled the name up but have no idea who that really is.

[Chaos]

Finally!!! Congrats bud!! Seems like a really great improvement from when you started posting.

[Reesays]

For a guy who is supposed to be seen as developing and such, I am surprised at how many likes I have gotten so far with my posts. Ah well.

Ya, definitely gonna seal that deal with her, came so close yesterday DX. Frustration frustration I could have been all up in it.

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(03-05-2012 04:34 AM)shadow Wrote:  Great job man. I'm proud of you for getting out there. As you can see, the responses are all over the place. Some girls liked you, some didn't and that's fine. Keep pushing. These results should tell you that hooking up with a white chick is definitely possible for you (blonde and redhead above).

As for the brunette, I'm actually starting to think she likes you. I know it's hard to believe. But it's very well possible. If you feel up to it, next time you see her, walk up to her and talk to her and see what happens. It will help if you can be a bit of a hardass with this chick.

Like Helga and Arnold from Hay Arnold

anyways I am thinking about actually talking to her more and more and seeing if that can actually be true

[Tim]

(03-15-2012 03:44 PM)Reesays Wrote:  For a guy who is supposed to be seen as developing and such, I am surprised at how many likes I have gotten so far with my posts. Ah well.

That's because if you show that you're willing to work for this then we're with you, and we're going to encourage you when you succeed.

[Reesays]

When I get a career, I wanna vacation to a part of the US with a lot of Latinas. Any suggestions which part is the best?

South Florida vs So California

[Mark]

Miami

[IdEngager]

Miami is a godforsaken city in America's most godforsaken state.

That being said, Miami.

[Alvar]

I though you were another hopeless case.
Luckily, guys here didn't give up on you and you were able to push it forward. I'm happy for you.

[Reesays]

Happened yesterday night.

Met an old classmate of mines who is at UGA right now (again, Spring Break, they go back Monday). Well she is a Ginger but we just talked for like 15 minutes today. Caught up on life and then she told me she wanted to take me somewhere, I decided not to resist, maybe it is a new place that opened up in town. She ended up taking me to this place 10 miles from where we were. It was a camping or picnic type of area I have never seen before. We walk around and she then tells me to go back to her car and this time get in the backseat.

We do just that. Well then I end up getting in the backseat, she wraps her arms around me and kisses me. We do that for a while and then she takes off her top and we continue to kiss.

Her phone rings about three times in a row. She takes off her shorts and tells me to keep working on her while she answers the phone. Her parents call and apparently asked her where she was and what was going on because she had to be at a church event which was going to start in a few minutes.

I was licking her down there not caring, she told me she doesn't have much time left.

SH*T SH*T SH*T SH*T SH*T AGAIN!

Man I see the potential, get close to it, I hit the goal post, but it never goes into the goal! Cannot wait to be at a college town!!!!

[trader4life]

I was licking her down there not caring.

Dude, I know everyone is happy for you, as am I, but for whatever reason that is the funniest shit I have read in a while. Like you are telling the story and you look around first before you say that part "down there" to make sure nobody is looking.

Good job man, you'll close it next time!

[Reesays]

(03-18-2012 12:05 AM)trader4life Wrote:  I was licking her down there not caring.

Dude, I know everyone is happy for you, as am I, but for whatever reason that is the funniest shit I have read in a while. Like you are telling the story and you look around first before you say that part "down there" to make sure nobody is looking.

Good job man, you'll close it next time!

No, I mean I did not care if I got some STDs or something, I just flat out did it! In my mind it was "LOSE UR VIRGINITY, LOSE UR VIRGINITY!".

[IdEngager]

You got your tongue on her clitoris, pretty soon you'll be sticking your penis in her vagina!

Stop worrying about race issues and learn how to love the bomb

[bwong]

I read through all your posts in this thread Reesays and as hard as it was to actually do it, I`m glad to see you made some progress. But now that you had some success hopefully you can stop with the whole `brown guys dont get none` mentality; its extremely annoying, self detrimental and just negative. Hopefully now you see what you`re capable of. There`s some things in life that you cant change (like your height, race, background) so acknowledge it, move on and dont complain about it. The things that you can change, you work as hard as possible to get what you want. That to me is what being a man is all about. Getting shit done because you want it.

[Reesays]

(03-18-2012 02:53 AM)IdEngager Wrote:  You got your tongue on her clitoris, pretty soon you'll be sticking your penis in her vagina!

Stop worrying about race issues and learn how to love the bomb

Ya I did, could not seal it. I should have made her stay and be late but her parents are super religious.

I don't know if I will ever completely stop worrying about my race being a disability. I would like to, at times I think I do, but I never permanently stop even though I want to really bad.

[Zac]

Quote:I don't know if I will ever completely stop worrying about my race being a disability.

You won't as long as you think like this.

[Zac]

Dude, I'm a complete goofball white dude who has mostly been scrawny and short my entire life. I've been made fun of for walking weird my entire life due to a messed up back. Technically I do have a disability, or at least that's how my doctors described it to me when they figured everything out my sophomore year of high school.

Do you know how many girls I've dated gave a shit I walked funny? Zero. Most girls I've dated never said anything until I brought it up much later and they said they noticed but never cared enough to bring it up. Any girl who does have a problem with it, lol, on to the next one because that girl just isn't for me and wouldn't have been even if I did always walk normal.

It has nothing to do with who I am as a person. If anything, overcoming being self concious about it and being made fun of about it made me a much stronger person. I'm comfortable with who I am now and learned that anyone that made fun of me just needed to do it to feel better about themselves.

I've also found the less I worried about it the more normal I ended up walking. The more I would think "don't walk on my toes everyone is looking" the more I would walk on my toes. It was when I stopped giving a shit that I began to correct my problem. Your problem is slightly different but I think it's almost exactly the same. You won't change your skin color, but you will change the way you see it.

Do you think if I was self conscious about it now and felt like I had to apologize to myself for the hand I was dealt in life any of those girls would have wanted to be with me?

If you keep undervaluing yourself you are going to end up with women who don't value themselves. Find the good in yourself. Stop making up the bad. It makes me really sad that you think a simple part of who you are is a disability. I'm sure there is way more going on than the fact you are Indian.

You obviously aren't comfortable with yourself or who you are yet. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm saying that because you need to realize it is true and work on that. You are projecting a really negative self image on yourself. That is a huge problem. I'm not saying you can fix it over night and I'm not saying I can ever really understand what it's like to be a person who feels bad about themselves because of the color of their skin but I am saying the only person who can make you love yourself for who you are is you.



I couldn't write that last night because I was way too hammered. =)

[Reesays]

As a White guy, you have role models. I mean most of the PUA community is White, you saw White guys growing up who dated all kinds of women and were straight up players, you can watch a porno anytime and see some White guy screwing a fine looking girl from any background, etc. As a White guy, you have no reason to be worried about being rejected because of race, like literally, no reason. Men from your background marry women worldwide and everything, it is literally all on you. When you go to many places in the world, you get treated like a god because you are White.

Now Indian men on the other hand:

1. Rarely represented well in media, always shown as 711 owners or such.
2. In real life, rarely if ever have I seen an Indian guy with a girlfriend that wasn't Indian, I have even seen Asian guys date Latinas and Black women down here, Black guys date beautiful Latinas, and everything. Never seen an Indian guy ever in real life or known one on the internet that was a master seducer.

I just realize that when I move out, I will have to assume the role of pioneer. I will have to be that Indian guy who becomes her first Indian guy and instead of the 711 jokes she will think, "wow, no wonder they wrote a book on how to have sex".

What I worry about is not being able to date that girl who is beautiful because most of the times when I have seen beautiful girls in my area or online, their boyfriends have been White. So ya, for a White guy to even worry about his race is just insane.

Maybe all it will take for me to get over my insecurity would be moving to a big city or meeting that one Indian guy out of the billion who is dating the finest women across all colors.

Regardless, it isn't as bad as it used to be. Now it isn't malignant or anything.

What I want to do one day is travel the world and date different kinds of women. Yet I think me being Indian will limit me in that regard, especially in Western Europe.

[Matt T]

Quote:role models

Quote:I mean most of the PUA community is White

Most of these men are the farthest thing from a healthy role model.

[Zac]

I don't know anything about those men but honestly reeseys I really have to wonder how many women you've approached in the last 3 days vs. how much time you've wasted posting about your race.

Does being white change the fact I walk funny? I don't know of any pickup gurus that walk really funny. That isn't really fair of me though because I don't know of many pick up gurus at all.

[CHB2]

@Reesays Look up Matador, he was Mystery's wing on that VH1 show. He is Indian and is apparently a pretty successful PUA

[Mark]

Matador, Magic, Soul, Dharam (PUA Training), Ryan (from RSD) are all professional PUA coaches and Indian. I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting. One of my best friends is Indian and dates nothing but hot white girls. He's got a big Punjab nose and everything.

If you can't find an Indian guy who is good with girls, you obviously have not looked very hard. 'Nuff said.

[Zac]

[shadow]

I don't know why this thread keeps getting resuscitated. The guy is making an effort to change. It takes time. What is the point of hammering the same thing over and over? Reesays, FWIW, you are on the right track. You are making an effort, despite having misgivings. Your world view will slowly but steadily change. Keep going bro.