Shouldn't the point of "game" or "PUA" be to pick up all kinds of women? (my log)

[Chaos]

(03-06-2012 11:01 PM)Reesays Wrote:  I do think I can pull off that look. Maybe Chaos and others who saw my pic can comment.

LOL!! If I could pull off that look I would definitively do it

The look itself isn't so difficult from the style point of view... is just a grey ultra cool blazer on top of a perfect black shirt... Of course if helps a little bit if you are perfectly fit and the clothes are tailored because you also have a lot of money

[Reesays]

(03-06-2012 11:15 PM)Mark Wrote:  

Quote:Anyways, I wanna make this comment about my racial insecurity (which is dead pretty much, I worry about other things now). What REALLY gets me, as an Indian, is that we are so successful financially here in America, you have so many Indian MDs and I even heard that they have Indian guys working in Wall Street Firms such as GOLDMAN SACHS. After all that cash, the whole notion of an Indian dude marrying anyone other than an Indian woman is just asinine to so many people online and in real life. This just puts in my head "wait, so you are telling me that despite having a high salary, great career, etc. a fellow indian guy STILL cannot land a beautiful woman outside of his group in bed with him? well WHAT is up".

You're contradicting yourself here. You claim your racial insecurity is dead, and then spend a paragraph talking about how Indian guys can't date white women... I.e., you describe your racial insecurities at length.

pretty much dead, I don't think racial insecurities ever completely die unless the person goes through a magical or significantly good experience.\

paragraph was intended to showcase one of the main reasons as to how it came up and got there in the first place

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to chaos: you know who I am talkin about?

[Jon]

Lol, the fact that you are surprised that Indian dudes work at Goldman Sachs shows just how insecure you are.

[Matt T]

(03-06-2012 11:36 PM)Chaos Wrote:  

(03-06-2012 11:01 PM)Reesays Wrote:  I do think I can pull off that look. Maybe Chaos and others who saw my pic can comment.

LOL!! If I could pull off that look I would definitively do it

The look itself isn't so difficult from the style point of view... is just a grey ultra cool blazer on top of a perfect black shirt... Of course if helps a little bit if you are perfectly fit and the clothes are tailored because you also have a lot of money

Or you have a mom that can tailor it for you, haha. If you live at home, might as well take advantage of what you can take advantage of. If it weren't for my mom, I wouldn't have a single well-fitting shirt in my wardrobe because of my body shape.

[Reesays]

well, might do some approaches today

[Reesays]

Approached a girl who is visiting from UGA (they are on spring break right now). She met me my first semester of college here, been almost a year now lol. Well we talked, got her number, added her on facebook and I have a date coming up tomorrow at 1 PM at a restaurant. She actually called me over, wanted me to check the restaurant out with her. A good looking brunette, out of my league in terms of looks, hope it gets somewhere.

[Mark]

Attaboy Reesays. And nobody's out of your league brother. Remember, she picks her nose and pisses out her ass like the rest of us.

[Matt T]

Quote:pisses out her ass

What the hell...

[Tim]

(03-13-2012 11:44 PM)Mark Wrote:  pisses out her ass like the rest of us.

Um... Mark, have you got something you want to explain to us?

[Mark]

[Reesays]

yup

well, hope the day goes alright, and if it ends up in something better I will surely let you know, gonna groom myself tonight to make sure I look alright but overall the trick is to not worry too much

now mark, I understand you closing the Indian thread but apparently I really wanted to know more about the Blonde situation, as I said, I always fall flat with those kind of women

[Tim]

(03-14-2012 12:41 AM)Reesays Wrote:  now mark, I understand you closing the Indian thread but apparently I really wanted to know more about the Blonde situation, as I said, I always fall flat with those kind of women

There is no 'blonde situation'. The best way to get blondes is to stop thinking about them being any different to any other women out there. That's it.

[Zac]

bro, there is no blonde situation. There is a you situation. Get out there and just approach.

[Reesays]

(03-14-2012 12:48 AM)Tim Wrote:  

(03-14-2012 12:41 AM)Reesays Wrote:  now mark, I understand you closing the Indian thread but apparently I really wanted to know more about the Blonde situation, as I said, I always fall flat with those kind of women

There is no 'blonde situation'. The best way to get blondes is to stop thinking about them being any different to any other women out there. That's it.

lol okay, time to fail with them a 100 more times....

[Zac]

With that attitude you'll fail 1000 times. MUST be their hair color though.

[trader4life]

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lol okay, time to fail with them a 100 more times....
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Man, WTF? Read Mark's blog post today. You are 100% correct that you will fail 100 more times, likely more with that mindset. Good luck with that.

Seriously, go out with the "good looking brunette" and enjoy yourself.

On a seperate, but somewhat related note - you and pretty much every non-white guy I know prefers blondes. On the other hand, I am white and am crazy for black haired women, specifically Latina women. Just shows how much have a "rating scale" for women is completely useless based on our preferences and desires. Good luck man!

[Mark]

Yeah, I always fail with girls who have freckles on their nose. The damn freckled-nose girls! Think they're better than me. I've never met a guy who's been with one either. It must be impossible.... I must not be white enough.

[Reesays]

Actually my order of preference would go something like this (based on looks alone):

1. Latinas
2. Southern European women (Italian, Spaniard, French, etc.)
3. Asian and Asian-White mixed women
4. Arabic/Middle Eastern/Persian women
5. Blondes
6. White Brunettes (aka more of the American type as opposed to the Italian type)
7. Black women (Black-White mixed and lighter complexion Black women would be much higher up, like number 6 or 5)
8. Indian women
9. Gingers

Issue?

Most 7s and above in my area are either Blondes or women who dye their hair that color. And as I have mentioned, 1 through 4 are not the norm in my area

[Zac]

My girlfriend is a ginger and her nose is mad freckly be jealous bro. I"m as white as they come.

[Tim]

(03-14-2012 01:04 AM)trader4life Wrote:  On a seperate, but somewhat related note - you and pretty much every non-white guy I know prefers blondes. On the other hand, I am white and am crazy for black haired women, specifically Latina women. Just shows how much have a "rating scale" for women is completely useless based on our preferences and desires. Good luck man!

Yeah that's interesting isn't it? For a lot of non-white guys (mainly those from Asia and the Subcontinent), I think it seems to set off a massive insecurity. They're always obsessed with blondes and see them as the pinnacle of hotness. I know a lot of Asian PUAs, including a couple from Love Systems who I've met, were pretty much exclusively into blondes, and had absolutely no interest in Asian girls for that reason. Seems they buy more into the blonde-haired, blue-eyed myth of perfect beauty than the rest of us.

Personally I find hair colour to have no effect on my attraction, except that more girls who dye their hair blonde are insecure or shallow for the reason that they think dying their hair will make them more attractive.

And it sort of does, which is why I always have a warning signal in my head when I meet a blonde. Because when you look a little closer you realise many of them aren't any more attractive, it's just the blonde can trick you into that.

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(03-14-2012 01:12 AM)Zac Wrote:  My girlfriend is a ginger and her nose is mad freckly be jealous bro. I"m as white as they come.

One of the top five hottest girls I've ever met was a ginger in Vegas. From NOLA and cute as a button. Freckles may have been included.

Oh, and guess what her name was?
1. Ginger.
2. No, she wasn't a stripper.

[trader4life]

I know man, my ex wife is blonde, and while still relatively attractive, can't hold a candle to a even semi-hot dark haired woman in my book (just my preference though). Having said that, I have an ex-GF from last year that I still regularly hang out with/have sex with (FWB/NSA setup) who is a "fake boob, bleach blonde" but really cool and the sex is pretty incredible, so I am still attracted to her.

Also, met a blonde the other day while shopping who is quite a bit younger than me and attractive, but was also really playful and fun, so I got her number. I guess the point is, it is not a deal breaker for me, but given my choice blondes are just not my favorite. Oh, BTW, I do not find my "success rate" with either or to be skewed in one direction. I attribute that solely to the fact that I'm 6'4" though - since height it the only thing that matters (just kidding Mark...ha).

I think this can be looked at two ways and I do not think it is different for most girls. What I mean is while I am way more physically attracted to a brunette from a sheer physical aspect, if it came down to one that was a "9" looks wise in my book, but a bitch or totally boring and a blonde that was a "7" in my book, but WAAAAY more interesting and fun, I would choose the blonde every time....okay, maybe not for just sex but you get the point.

It's no different for most women unless they are totally superficial and who wants them anyway? Most girls worth a shit will pick a guy that is "non-white" but relaxed, socially adjusted and cool to be around (read as: doesn't creep her out) over some white guy that is a cooze bag, even if he is good looking, tall, blah, blah, blah. I think that is the whole point of this ungodly long thread.

[Reesays]

Asian PUAs into Blondes, hmm. I don't think it has to do with them being attracted to them more, just the bullying and chip on their shoulder. Asian guys (including Indians) get told daily that no White woman would date them. In a way, to me it is like White men SUBCONSCIOUSLY want all guys to screw their women in a way, even the racist ones you see on Bodybuilding.com.

Personally, beauty wise, an Indian girl with a lighter complexion will be considered more attractive to me than a White Blonde woman. Thing is, even though I have ran into some decent Indian women, I have a huge disdain for the limiting culture. On top of that, there are Indian girls down here who flash their White boyfriends like trophies while at the same time ridiculing Indian men and talking crap about them. Women in my family regularly fantasize about how beautiful Italian, Turkish, Black, and Black-White mixed guys are and how Indian men in general cannot compare.

This just makes me say "well what the heck then".

I have a korean friend that lives in Los Angeles now, was here for high school. Bullied by rich White kids, race jokes, would tell him he could never get a White girl and how they could easily get a high quality Asian woman. Now he only dates White women, mainly because so many Asian women he says turn their back on their own men here in the US. Can't blame him.

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(03-14-2012 01:34 AM)trader4life Wrote:  I know man, my ex wife is blonde, and while still relatively attractive, can't hold a candle to a even semi-hot dark haired woman in my book (just my preference though). Having said that, I have an ex-GF from last year that I still regularly hang out with/have sex with (FWB/NSA setup) who is a "fake boob, bleach blonde" but really cool and the sex is pretty incredible, so I am still attracted to her.

Also, met a blonde the other day while shopping who is quite a bit younger than me and attractive, but was also really playful and fun, so I got her number. I guess the point is, it is not a deal breaker for me, but given my choice blondes are just not my favorite. Oh, BTW, I do not find my "success rate" with either or to be skewed in one direction. I attribute that solely to the fact that I'm 6'4" though - since height it the only thing that matters (just kidding Mark...ha).

I think this can be looked at two ways and I do not think it is different for most girls. What I mean is while I am way more physically attracted to a brunette from a sheer physical aspect, if it came down to one that was a "9" looks wise in my book, but a bitch or totally boring and a blonde that was a "7" in my book, but WAAAAY more interesting and fun, I would choose the blonde every time....okay, maybe not for just sex but you get the point.

It's no different for most women unless they are totally superficial and who wants them anyway? Most girls worth a shit will pick a guy that is "non-white" but relaxed, socially adjusted and cool to be around (read as: doesn't creep her out) over some white guy that is a cooze bag, even if he is good looking, tall, blah, blah, blah. I think that is the whole point of this ungodly long thread.

Women are just differe than men in my opinion in that regard. Men are just less likely to discriminate based on race and such, women are far more likely.

You know there is something wrong with an area when Overweight White guys with bad teeth and such are doing better with women than fit and cut Black guys.

Like literally, in my town, White guys have their pickings, they have a monopoly on beautiful women. You see White men with beautiful Asian, White, and mixed race wives and no one gives a damn. See a Black guy with an average looking White woman (rare here), it is like spotting big foot, a lot of the older generation and such will make their voices heard.

I actually quit going out for a while because when I was at the mall picking up, these 3 rednecks kept following me around. One openly said "why not go back to the middle east for a towelheaded wife and leave our women alone achmed". They were getting mad for sure and no one really did anything about it.

I decided to leave but a few followed me around. Thing is I decided to blend into a crowd and walk more towards the African Americans and Latinos in the mall and eventually they stopped.[/b]

[Zac]

Quote:Asian guys (including Indians) get told daily that no White woman would date them.

Who is telling them this? What exactly are they saying. Are people saying this to you personally often?

Quote:In a way, to me White men SUBCONSCIOUSLY want all guys to screw their women in a way, even the racist ones you see on Bodybuilding.com.

Why do you think that?

Quote:On top of that, there are Indian girls down here who flash their White boyfriends like trophies while at the same time ridiculing Indian men and talking crap about them.

Is there a specific girl you are talking about here or do you know a few? What have been your experiences with them? Do you think most Indian girls are like that?

Quote:Women in my family regularly fantasize about how beautiful Italian, Turkish, Black, and Black-White mixed guys are and how Indian men in general cannot compare.

That's got to be rough. Don't take that seriously though. Let them say whatever they want. If you work hard to be the best self you can you are just as good if not better than all those guys. Don't let what they say put you down in the least.

Quote:I actually quit going out for a while because when I was at the mall picking up, these 3 rednecks kept following me around. One openly said "why not go back to the middle east for a towelheaded wife and leave our women alone achmed".

Damn man that must have sucked. I can imagine that might make you apprehensive to get out there again.

How is your social circle game?

Cold approach isn't the only way to get girls. I have barely gotten any kind of action out of cold approach in my entire life.

What kind of organizations do you belong to? What are your hobbies? Do you get to know new people often? Are you always trying new things?

I don't know much about you. I'm sorry if you've talked about this stuff before. You can pm that stuff to me if you want to keep the thread on topic.

[Tim]

(03-14-2012 02:22 AM)Reesays Wrote:  I actually quit going out for a while because when I was at the mall picking up, these 3 rednecks kept following me around. One openly said "why not go back to the middle east for a towelheaded wife and leave our women alone achmed". They were getting mad for sure and no one really did anything about it.

Damn man that sucks. I can understand how disheartening that must be. Even if we're tough on you on these boards, you should always remember that guys on here definitely don't feel that way. We want you to succeed.

[Matt T]

Damn you Mark, I consider myself a huge South Park fan, but you got a reference by me. Brb committing suicide.