Night game solo - Please critique

[Trent845]

I've recently moved to a new city, and so I don't have any wings. Soon I'll embark on a bar crawl purely for the sake of meeting women. I'd like to get input from the group, partly because I'm a little unclear on whether Mark's approach to night game differs significantly from the one I learned in more traditional PUA.

I have two modes. In neighborhoods like the one where I live, I go out by myself earlyish (9 or so), sit at the bar and order a drink while reading or writing in a notebook. Since I work in a creative field, it's easy to explain how I needed to get out of the office to clear my head and work on a problem -- it's usually true, as well. I can chat up the bartender / serving staff while it's slow, and as things pick up, I'm positioned in a place where it's easy to bump into attractive women. Even if I don't meet a woman that night, I figure that I've invested some familiarity with the staff of a fashionable nightclub, and that could be valuable down the road when I bring a date.

The other mode is purely a bar crawl. I'll head to a nightclub district and beginning at around 11p I'll begin moving through them slowly. I walk in and look to make eye contact, get a smile, and start a conversation, because the women who are open to an encounter tend to have one eye on the door. If no opportunity presents itself in one bar, I try the next, and then the next, and so on. I only order a drink when I'm having it with a woman. The more ground I cover, the greater the chance that there will be a spark with one girl or one group. If I feel myself getting into my head, then that's a cue to give up looking for warm leads and do some cold approaches.

I'd love to hear any tips from you guys about how I can enhance this approach. Thanks!

[Jon]

I would always do some approaches at a bar, even without warm leads. A lot of women will not be looking around, but will be totally receptive if you start talking. Just talk to some girls.

[baller08]

I think both modes you have are solid. I would only add 2 things:

1) Instead of going out to specifically meet women, go out with the intent to be social. Since you're in a new city, the time you spend getting into social circles will yield a lot more results than trying to meet women cold. Along the way you'll obviously meet women of course. When possible, always try to work smarter instead of harder.

2) I'm not sure on which nights you usually do one or both of these modes. For generality sake, let's say you do this on a Fri or Sat night (which is what most guys tend to do). Whether you have some success or get blown out of every set on those nights isn't determined by what you do that night, it's by what you do Mon-Thur. Every team in every sport practices during the week before game time. In the NFL here in the US, Sunday is game day.

Most guys don't do shit Mon-Thur and live a dull life then expect to hit it out of the park on Fri or Sat. Stupid right? So be social and approach women during the week, practice and get into that frame of mind. Then when you go do your thing on Fri or Sat you'll have much better results.

[Trent845]

(04-24-2012 05:55 PM)baller08 Wrote:  Most guys don't do shit Mon-Thur and live a dull life then expect to hit it out of the park on Fri or Sat. Stupid right? So be social and approach women during the week, practice and get into that frame of mind. Then when you go do your thing on Fri or Sat you'll have much better results.

This is a really good point, but it's a challenge for me. I work at home and almost all my work-related encounters happen via phone or email. The only regular, mid-week place I run into women is the gym. So I'm definitely going to try to be more outgoing during those visits, as well as running errand around town (grocery store, dr appts, pet store, etc.)

Pretty soon, I'll be starting Mark's program.

[baller08]

Yeah, definitely, even if you work from home you do get off of work. So just make sure you go out at least twice during the week to talk to people in general. Then while you're there practice on women that you meet. It doesn't matter....it's just practice. If you ever thought about saying this or that and was wondering what kind of reception it will get or what type of conversation it'll lead to....try it. 99% of the time the way it plays out in your head is different than how it'll go in reality. Don't be afraid to try all sorts of different conversation topics.

As for Mark's program, definitely start that, but you don't need to wait for anything. Tonight you can go out and start talking to people. Go pick up any women's magazine and glance at the topics on the cover. Find a couple that actually interests you and go read the articles. Then go out and ask women about it during the week and see what kind of conversation that leads to. Be open...don't get bogged down by a method....let things flow from one topic to the next. When women talk they give you key words that will lead to other topics of interest.

[Jon]

How about working from a cafe?

[Trent845]

(04-24-2012 09:08 PM)Jon Wrote:  How about working from a cafe?

Yeah, I should do that more often. I've just gotta pick days when I don't need to get on the phone.

As part of my get-out campaign, I'm also going to make occasional trips to the library and to the dog park. That, plus my 4-5 days at the gym, plus nights out should keep me from becoming a complete hermit.

I'm thinking about going to some MeetUps, but I'm a little skeptical that those aren't going to be a total waste of time. The few I've been to have been real busts.

[Jon]

What city are you in, if you dont mind my asking?

[Jack Sparrow]

If you go to meetups, try activity based meetup - like hiking, photography, ultimate Frisbee, etc. My friend goes to Texas football meetups. They watch football, have a good time, and there are actually hot girls.

I would stay away from the singles meetups. Those have been a total waste of time (maybe you can find a wing there!). The chance of seeing a hot girl at a singles meet up is slim to none.

[Trent845]

(04-25-2012 12:22 AM)Jon Wrote:  What city are you in, if you dont mind my asking?

I'm in Chicago.

[chiclover]

Chicago's a great city. It's the second largest metropolitan in the country next to NYC. There are loads of women everywhere. When I was there for a weekend alone, I just went to the hottest places (via word of mouth) and made friends with a promoter. Then, I naturally just ended up with one of the cute girls in the group. As long as you're cool and respectful to everyone and she's available, it shouldn't be a problem. They'll also help you get free drinks and free cover to some of the nicer clubs. Also, I would definitely explore day game. It's the perfect city for it. Good luck.