Maybe these are the post:masculine women, what do you guys think?

[Tim]

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...27304.html

[crazyhorse]

I have mixed feelings concerning these. To me it sounded just like a swingers event. Nothing spectacular though. Swinger parties have been around for so many ages. I remember Louis Theroux doing an undercover in the swingers environment. Personally, I can't really imagine a lot of attractive people going to such places.

To me it sounds a bit like the porn industry. On the outside, we cherish images of glamour and wild sex parties. But what really goes on is totally different. Particurarily, if you listen to stories from former pornstars.

http://www.shelleylubben.com/

I later tell Paloma that the whole affair has left me feeling a little unsettled. But it shouldn't, she insists: "Whether or not you personally agree with what happened is sort of by-the-by. The point is that we acknowledge that a lot of women have the same desires as men and should have the chance to explore them."

It is the acceptance that women have needs and desires that lies at the heart of what Paloma insists is a new sexual outlook. If we continue to be shocked by women going to sex parties, or using vibrators, then we are doing the female population a disservice. "This is supposed to be a progressive, liberated society," she argues. "And yet some people still insist on making women feel like social pariahs if they admit to enjoying an orgasm.[b] I think it's about time we faced up to the fact that some women just enjoy sex. Is that really so hard to believe?[/b]"

I wasn't really surprised with the feminist point of view at the end. But do we seriously still behave that way towards women? I don't think so. In all honesty, such parties are different from mainstream society. That's the reason why they get critiqued. Men will get critiqued just as much if they admit going to such a party.

But when women get critiqued it's because we arn't liberal enough.

Newsflash: everybody critiques you.

But I won't stop you from fucking.

Please go on.

[SeXyBaCk]

Link doesn't work for me, but I guess this must be something like killing kittens parties? Someone I studied with goes to those. They're invitation only as far as I know. They were the latest hush hush thing a few months ago in london. Guys jokingly saying how desperate they were to get in. That sorta thing probably popping up all over western europe now.

[Mark]

I'm not a huge fan of the book, but Ariel Levy demolishes this type of "sexual expressionism" in "Female Chauvinist Pigs."

I find stuff like this to be shallow and basically a gender-studied excuse for hedonism and attention-whoring. If a bunch of women want to get off together, that's cool, but don't advertise it and put a cause behind it.