Julien: "Best player in this game right now" vid

[sledgehammer]

Ok so I got an email by RSD, I guess I hadnt canceled my subscription. Anyway, they linked me this video of their instructor "Julien" who like everyone on RSDnation say is the "best player in this game that has ever been" - So I checked out the vid. Basicly its the usual "high value is everything, girls will cheat on their boyfriend in a SECOND if you have higher value", then some explanation of the usual asshole jerk game where you tell girls they are like dogs, bitches etc.

What got my attention was the old man sitting to the right in the front, oh man, I really feel for this 50+ year old dude, he must have been thinking: "so what am I gonna do with this?" lol





One thing is for sure, RSD DO provide with entertainment.

[John]

I guess he is polarising as Mark would say.

I've used RSD game with success in the past... but it was hard for me to tell what was happening. Was I simply filtering for girls that liked me, or was I really hitting state / nimbus / 80 year old CEO mindset?

Why do RSD guys need to spend the better part of the night building momentum to hit that state? Are they playing a numbers game?

[Alvar]

Another RSD, thread?
Sledge, repeat after me "I am a RSD junkie and I need help."

[sledgehammer]

(08-14-2012 12:00 AM)Alvar Wrote:  Another RSD, thread?
Sledge, repeat after me "I am a RSD junkie and I need help."

LOL truth

Altho I gotta admit bashing these guys have done wonders for my RSD detox, cant tell you how brainwashed I got by them

[SeXyBaCk]

The old guy... my money is on him being a traffic cop, clad in leather on one of those cop bikes.

Edit: don't want to be pulled over by him in ceo-mode. I'm gonna check my rear lights next time I'm near my car.

[Matty]

I only watched three minutes of this but i feel like ive been robbed of three minutes of my life. Can we seriously stop putting up fucking RSD threads? Really, we're better than this.

[Octavian]

Would you drink poison just to see what it tastes like? Stop watching these videos.

[esqnyc]

I don't think we should dismiss this simply because it's from RSD. Many of the principles Mark recommends in Models overlap with RSD principles and we should critique this objectively. I personally think Julien is right that women respond more favorably to a strong commanding "CEO" presence rather than a pretty boy Cassanova. Women do respond positively to perceived status. However, this theory has its limits because you absolutely have to account for looks and appearance. Imagine old dude in the front row (dressed the way he is there) approaching a dime piece 21 year old girl in a club and saying "You! Come here. How old are you?". I would really pay to see that. Unless she has daddy issues would probably either a) run as fast as she could away from him, b) pepper spray him or c) report him to a bouncer. The Drais example is extreme and focuses on the vapid coke-slut demographic of LA or Vegas. That's just my 2cents.

P.S. Shout out to the old dude for seeking help, but I think a "No More Mr. Nice Guy!" group would suit him better than an RSD free tour.

[TruthSeeker]

(08-14-2012 09:33 PM)esqnyc Wrote:  Many of the principles Mark recommends in Models overlap with RSD principles

which?

[Jack Sparrow]

It's funny how RSD promotes all this BS about looks doesn't matter than they hired a 24y/o 6'2" pretty boy as their instructor.

Julien would also claim he can dress like sh-t and still pick up girls, but in fact he is dressed casually trendy. It's not like he's dressed in acid wash jeans and an one size too big jacket from K-mart.

They also play down other pua technique but if you listen and watch closely, they still do all the push pull, demonstrate value, and what is really akin to negging.

I just don't think they contribute anything original other than rehashing what's already out there which is OK except they reworded and re-emphasize it in a way that confused students even more.

[TheBoss]

Couldn't watch more than 3 minutes of that bullshit.

[Alvar]

The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. Whatever you give your attention will grow stronger into your life, just like obsessing over women (bad) behaviour is rewarding it, even if you complain about it.
If you feel you need to watch and laught at these gonzos to feel better about your past, then you aren't really done with them.

[Ryan]

(08-14-2012 09:33 PM)esqnyc Wrote:  I don't think we should dismiss this simply because it's from RSD. Many of the principles Mark recommends in Models overlap with RSD principles and we should critique this objectively. I personally think Julien is right that women respond more favorably to a strong commanding "CEO" presence rather than a pretty boy Cassanova. Women do respond positively to perceived status.

I agree with you. Some of his methods don't seem like the healthiest of ways to build relationships, although I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. I have my gripes with Julien but you can't deny that he does have some good, insightful things to say. For example, he talks about breaking through women's "wall of politeness" by doing something outlandish or JUST BEING REAL. This is quite similar to Mark's idea of polarizing women through vulnerability. By making yourself vulnerable, you in turn cause the women to show her real self and are able to have a real connection. Julien and Mark are saying the same thing. In fact, a lot of what Julien talks about is just presenting yourself in an authentic way.

Here is a great video he did that is not really related to pick up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmKGLe9DOb4

[SeXyBaCk]

I didn't watch the whole thing, just the first two minutes... isn't he saying just be an arrogant prick on a power trip and women will flock to you? Was there more? Before you bust my balls, I haven't got sound here, mmk?

I've no idea if this gets you laid, would be pretty cool if it did. I don't think the playacting can hold up past the first date, or if you're really that bossman character get you into the most healthy of relationships. We all want to be in the driving seat at some point. Even the most submissive women/people want some sort of power over their partner. It might be subtle, it might be achieved by nagging/crying/drama but at the end of the day, believe you me, you start dating women regularly, they hold some sort of power of you too. They get their say/way in some things and you have to compromise. It's natural human behaviour, starts with toddles, we all want to dominate and enforce our will at some point. Just bossing and never compromising won't give you longterm quality company. Might get you some hardcore Dodo pushover though, whom you will have the hardest time getting rid of. Why? Cause you can't stand being alone, which made you take up the whole boss-act to begin with.

[TheImptuous]

I watched a lot of RSD videos a few months back. They're fascinating in a number of ways, like how obvious it is that Tyler missed his calling as a standup comedian given his propensity to ramble hilariously and nonsensically. But for a company that calls itself Real Social Dynamics, it's telling how they've pieced together less of the social dynamics puzzle than they'd like to admit, and Julien's approach is definitely indicative of that. There was one video in particular where Tyler was rambling about something and he got onto the topic of Julien's game and he basically admitted that the guy isn't very emotionally mature, like a little boy in an adult's body who happens to know how to pull really well.

[Matty]

This is all im gonna say about RSD for anyone who cares, then im gonna drop it, cause i think these threads are a nuissance.I dont think the issue with RSD is whether or not it gets you laid, there are plenty of systems out there that accomplish that. The issue is that it teaches you to get laid by acting like a frat boy and DISCONNECTING emotionally. They may preach to the contrary, but thats really the heart of what RSD is about. The subtext of there indtructors when they speak is obvious. If Tyler and the boys were upfront about it, i wouldnt have such a big problm with them. Unfortunately, Tylers very good at creating the appearance that he and his instructors are enlightened and "deep", with all the spirituailty self help bullshit they butcher. Really, if ur gonna be an obnoxious fratboy, just admit that ur an obnoxious frat boy. What ive always appreciated about PostMasculine, and what distinguishes Mark from a guy like Julian is the emphasis placed on connecting with other human beings (not just woman) emotionally. Its not a tactic to get laid, its a way of living that enriches ur life and those around you. Thats my two cents.

[navyguy]

I think that is quite true because they have instructor that is not a s good looking as well just look ozzie, todd and jeff. Those three are pretty much average or below. It just happen that Julien has a good game.

(08-14-2012 10:30 PM)Jack Sparrow Wrote:  It's funny how RSD promotes all this BS about looks doesn't matter than they hired a 24y/o 6'2" pretty boy as their instructor.

Julien would also claim he can dress like sh-t and still pick up girls, but in fact he is dressed casually trendy. It's not like he's dressed in acid wash jeans and an one size too big jacket from K-mart.

They also play down other pua technique but if you listen and watch closely, they still do all the push pull, demonstrate value, and what is really akin to negging.

I just don't think they contribute anything original other than rehashing what's already out there which is OK except they reworded and re-emphasize it in a way that confused students even more.

[sledgehammer]

Dude Todd is above average.

[Jack Sparrow]

Julien has good game because he went out 7 night's a week since he was 19 y/o not because of what RSD taught him.

Jeff is a socially mal-adjusted guy who cannot make eye contact with people after his own speech. He just stroll through the audience looking straight ahead like he is "high valued". What an idiot. Any normal public speaker, sales person would smile and engage the audiance that's going to buy his product. Only social retards were like "Ohh, he is so funny. What a cool non reactive guy!!!!" Why do you think there is a discount to his boot camp? You can learn more from a run of the mill real estate broker about how to be friendly, charismatic, and socially engaging than from these tools.

Tyler is getting a bit better. He was an awkward weirdo. Look at the crap they show at the hot seat. It emulates a bit of what naturals do, but it's still weird, uncalibrated, sociopath sh-t. I think he really put in the effort to become a normal friendly guy. He is one determined SOB so I think he OK by now.

Ozzy seems like a cool guy.

Again, any cool guy in RSD are already cool before they joined them, not because of what they learned from them.

Papa, one of the RSD founders. You would think he would be so cool and awesome by now from hanging and learning from Tyler. He is one socially awkward dude.

Like Mark said in his post about boot camps. Social newbies cannot tell the difference between what's a truly charismatic guy from some BS con-artist. I am telling you, RSD had some social retards on their teaching staff until they actively recruited cool, good looking, young guys like Brad, Alex, and some frat boy who got a 3 some on his first night of RSD bootcamp (can't remember his name).

Anyways. Enough of my rant on RSD.

[Mark]

Why are we still talking about this company?

[TheImptuous]

(08-17-2012 08:21 PM)Jack Sparrow Wrote:  Papa, one of the RSD founders. You would think he would be so cool and awesome by now from hanging and learning from Tyler.

Talk about the blind leading the blind.

[Starsailor~]

It is hilarious how much RSD bashing goes on in this forum.

Grow the fuck up guys; if you cannot find any value in what they teach, then just avoid them and spend your time in a more productive way.

[Edmond Dantès]

Honestly, who gives a fuck?

[viridian]

Julian is a complete psychopath.

[Mark]

Hey you know what else makes women fall psychotically in love with you? Kidnapping them and holding them in your basement. It's a new technique I call Stockholm Syndrome. 100% Success rate bro. And TONS of sex.