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Hey Juggernaut I've had those reactions. Not often, but they do happen no matter what. It sucks, but I think the best thing is just to let yourself be bummed out about it for a bit. Don't try and swallow your anger and call her a bitch, or move on to the next girl immediately. Just accept it and feel the pain until you're a bit more removed from it.

Then once you're feeling a bit better you can remind yourself that there are million reasons why that could have happened, and the most likely one is something that has nothing to do with you. Tell yourself it was her loss, etc.

I find that putting that break in between it happening and you trying to move on from it helps not to take it so personally. You deal with the pain and even though it sucks for a bit you deal with it then and there. Trying to shut it out or move on too quickly means you don't really deal with it and are left with a bit of animosity towards her. Just IMO.
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@tim: Yeah, that does make sense. I honestly did feel like calling her a bitch lmao but I am glad I kept my cool but I guess I did take it a bit personally. I will keep this in mind when I go out today.
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juggernaut92,

First off major respect for pounding the pavement and putting yourself out there. Experience is the best teacher!

Having said that, you should be doing day game with a game plan rather than approaching blindly. Otherwise, you'll just be wasting your time and you don't want to end up like that guy here with 500 approaches and 0 lays.

As a guy who runs day game, here are three suggestions:

1. Find girls who'd be most receptive to your approach.

If you've checked out most commerical day game videos, you'll notice they approach foreign girls overwhelmingly. Many of these foreign girls are on vacation or just new to the country without large established social circles. The tourist girls are just looking for adventure, and the new-to-the-country types don't have many friends and are somewhat lonely. These girls would be far more receptive to a day game cold approach than say the local party girl with 1000 Facebook friends - rest assured she already has 30 guys texting her, and why would she go out with you - a stranger - when she has access to several dozen "socially proofed" guys via her extended social circle.

So find out where the tourists hang out (TO is a big city) and check out if there are any language exchange program meetup groups for newcomers. As a local, you have higher social value, and many of these girls will be grateful to date a "native speaker" with whom they can improve their English. I had a buddy who signed up as a tutor for an English tutoring program at his university and he dated a lot of cute girls this way!

2. Find environments in which girls would be most receptive to cold approaches.

My fav is college campuses. Strap on a backpack and check out the York Glendon Campus - I dated a girl there once and it was 80%+ girls. In a closed environment where the girls outnumber the boys, a lot of girls are sleeping alone so you know they're hurting for action. Moreover, girls are far more open and friendly in a "closed" environment with similar-aged peers free of "randoms", "creepers" and "sketchballs". They fact you're assumed to attend the same school gives you instant social proof and an instant in (vs. the "random guy on the street/mall" effect). If they later ask say why you're there when you're not a student say you're meeting a friend. Moreover, at the end of the day girls need some way to rationalize going out with you (a stranger), and "I met him on campus" is more socially acceptable than "I met him on the street."

3. Go in with prepared conversation material.

Since you're new to the game, your cold approach skills are probably not strong enough to carry a conversation that leads to a romantic connection. I recommend you go in there with a game plan. If you've heard my audio, you'll notice that I start by stopping to ask for directions (the most socially acceptable way to start a conversation with a stranger), then transition to asking for relationship advice (this is a false disqualifier - he's in a relationship, so he must not be hitting on me - and girls love gossip). I segway into some DHV material, run some cold reads, mild kino, qualify, tell her a bit about myself, and number-close - all in <10 minutes. That stuff is all pre-rehearsed and pre-scripted, but it works! Remember, cold approach is extremely nuanced, and the slightest hint of creepiness and awkwardness will send her running. You need to come across as interesting enough for her to want to get to know you more. Of course, once you develop more confidence you can drop the canned material and vibe naturally.

These are my tips dude. I'm a day gamer as well and I know where you're going through. Game on bro - you'll get there!
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Just wanted to say when I in the past said I don't think routines are good I meant entire prepared stories you're going to tell, like something about relationship advice or your grandmothers deceased dog. Why? Cause people can rarely lie well and it becomes totally apparent you just want to come over to talk, so might as well be up front about it.

You should definitely have a few open ended questions in your mind such as "what are you shopping for". Or what's in that cup? etc

for instance when i get one who's holidng a cup i rattle down a whole selection of coffee choices.
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@mace: Thanks man. This is really a struggle but I gotta start somewhere.

The only thing that I feel weird about is pre planned material because it is kind of beating around the bush and not really the honest way. But I actually questioned why I am making it so hard to get laid lol. I guess it just comes down to intention but you are right man, I need some kind of training wheels and then when I am better I will take them off.

I just have one question man. Like it sounds like you could get the number pretty easy but what about after that? Like when you are out on a day 2 with her, wont you have a hard time because you wont be scripted anymore? Or are you saying become scripted all the way till the bedroom?

@Sexyback: yes that is one of the reasons I feel weird about routines but I think I will give it a try just for training wheels and to progress a little because right now I am just stagnating lol.

and I guess I discussed this point with baller in the previous page about how everything is pretty much a routine lol

Day 10: May 5th, 2012

Well today I did a few quick approaches at the mall and then I just went to my friends house. I will work on some routines. I made one but I think a more elaborate one lol. I will stick to real events but we will see. I am gearing up for school in two days so I gotta get it done before then.
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I'm still really opposed to the idea of "routines". Talking to women isn't like playing a video game. The whole "Tell this story, neg, kino, tell this story, etc" flowchart of interaction really rubs me the wrong way and in my opinion comes across as robotic and frankly pretty creepy.

Thinking of things to talk about with girls? Sure, that's fine. Think of things you're interested in: travel, school, experiences, etc and see if you share anything in common. Conversations should flow freely from there if you just forget about trying to impress her and actually talk. You'll be amazed how much more you'll get out of your interactions by doing this instead of going with routine to routine to routine like you're entering cheat codes to beat a game (have sex with a women).
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Pineapple, understand that both you and SeXyBaCk come from an entirely differen place than juggernaut92. You possess a level of skill, competence and confidence all borne out of postive experiences with women. Guys like you and SeXyBaCk don't need routines.

A guy like juggernaut92 is in a totally different boat. He'd be happy to just cold approach and hold a conversation for 10 minutes without the girl walking away. That means relating to the girl in a way that makes her interested, wanting to give you her number and showing up for a date. Guys like you and SeXyBaCk can probably already do this with "unconscience competence. But brainwashing a complete newbie like juggernaut92 with "inner game" self-help shibboleth and then telling him to "go natural" won't do him any good - he doesn't know what "go natural" means.

juggernaut92 has been day gaming for a month now. He has yet to even get a number. I don't want him to waste any more time and give up hope because he's not getting any results. The defintion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over a gain and expecting a different outcome. Why not let him test out some tried-and-tested routines for a while it and see where he goes? If he starts having success, these little victories will help him build confidence that will reflect in his interactions with women.

Remember, baby steps. Don't knock it till he's tried it!
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(05-05-2012 09:26 PM)Mace Wrote:  Pineapple, understand that both you and SeXyBaCk come from an entirely differen place than juggernaut92. You possess a level of skill, competence and confidence all borne out of postive experiences with women. Guys like you and SeXyBaCk don't need routines.

A guy like juggernaut92 is in a totally different boat. He'd be happy to just cold approach and hold a conversation for 10 minutes without the girl walking away. That means relating to the girl in a way that makes her interested, wanting to give you her number and showing up for a date. Guys like you and SeXyBaCk can probably already do this with "unconscience competence. But brainwashing a complete newbie like juggernaut92 with "inner game" self-help shibboleth and then telling him to "go natural" won't do him any good - he doesn't know what "go natural" means.

juggernaut92 has been day gaming for a month now. He has yet to even get a number. I don't want him to waste any more time and give up hope because he's not getting any results. The defintion of insanity is doing the same thing over and over a gain and expecting a different outcome. Why not let him test out some tried-and-tested routines for a while it and see where he goes? If he starts having success, these little victories will help him build confidence that will reflect in his interactions with women.

Remember, baby steps. Don't knock it till he's tried it!
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(05-05-2012 03:10 PM)Mace Wrote:  transition to asking for relationship advice (this is a false disqualifier - he's in a relationship, so he must not be hitting on me - and girls love gossip).

This specifically is not cool. This isn't the place to tell guys to manipulate women into thinking you have a girlfriend so you can gain their trust.
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@Juggernaut92- here's a checklist for you to not only get a number, but possibly get laid within a few weeks. I don't believe you're as hopeless as Mace lets on. I've saw pics of some of you guys and it surprised me because I thought guys would be nerdy and weird looking, but you guys are not bad looking at all (no homo). You're probably an 8 looks wise, or could be if you finish this checklist. So here it goes:

1. Go to the gym. Let me know if you need a good workout plan. if you can't afford the gym, do push ups and sit ups for now. Diet is key also. Just please don't be fat.

2. Work on your body language. I want you to have James Bond body language wherever you go. You're going to have to focus on keeping your back straight, shoulders back, head and neck up at first, but it will soon become second nature. You'll start to see and feel people treating you different. You'll also feel more swagger and confidence. Google it if you're really not sure what good body language is.

3. Get a few outfits that fit you perfectly and look nice. Let me know if you need fashion advice.

4. Every time you do talk, focus on projecting your voice like a man! Raaaawr! If you're anything like me, you'll probably feel uncomfortable with it at first. Things in your head will say "they're gonna think I'm too loud" or "they'll think I'm fake" or "I'm not worthy enough to talk to people in this manner" but keep doing it despite this. That and make sure your voice resonates down. Morgan Freeman says yawning deepens your voice also.

5. Look at everyone in their eyes. Not only women, but men as well. You'll see how uncomfortable it is for you and other people to withstand. This is where you will start to learn the power of non-verbals. You'll think "wow, I didn't know this stuff was so important." But, it really is. You'll also start to see and feel girls checking you out, being receptive, and even eye fucking you.

6. After you do all that, I want you to approach girls. However, i don't want you to worry about what to say. Focus on all the other things on the list instead, like your body language, eye contact, and overall nonchalance and sexual aura, while you walk up to her (that's all it takes is getting your legs to walk over to her). Introduce yourself and go to shake the girl's hand confidently. Feel her touch, and don't let go until she lets go first. Do this with all the girls you approach and go for the number. This is when you'll start to understand non-verbals even more. You'll start to notice girls holding onto your hand for longer periods of time, or girls looking at you then looking away out of "submissiveness". You'll notice more smiles from girls, girls kind of pacing around you, girls touching you, girls talking loud to get your attention, lots of hair play, and even spot girls quickly looking at your dick. These are all signs that she digs you. These are the things I see on a daily basis. I can tell some of my friends don't see it but I do. It's like being in the matrix lol.

7. Finally, after you've done all this and actually understand and see what I mean about non-verbals, THEN come back on here and ask me what to say to a girl.
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@pineapple: lol yes again that is why I don't like the traditional Mystery routines and whatnot. I need to work on just talking and changing topics.
@mace: dont worry about me giving up man. I know some guy in Toronto who is pulling girls in broad daylight and it took him a year and a half to get his first lay. But yes I will try to do something different
@jon: same thing with what I said to pineapple
@playmaker: Maybe my braces pose a bit of a problem lol and you gotta check your private messages more often lol. I PMed you a long time ago. These points are great man. I have a book on body language so I gotta get into it soon and I am already on a diet/pretty slim so that is taken care of lol.

Well I feel a bit bad that everyone is giving advice and I have not really revealed the real reason doing that I am doing poorly. The thing that always prevents me from continuing the conversation with the girl is that I have no idea why the girl would give a shit about what I have to say. Like I want to say something but then my mind pops the question of "Why would she care about what you have to say?". I think about that and then I just quit right there. I had pretty low self-esteem in the past and it is getting better but yeah that is a question that prevents me doing the best that I can. Or maybe I am trying too hard to say something so the girl automatically likes me. Advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
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@Juggernaut92:

Quote:Well I feel a bit bad that everyone is giving advice and I have not really revealed the real reason doing that I am doing poorly. The thing that always prevents me from continuing the conversation with the girl is that I have no idea why the girl would give a shit about what I have to say. Like I want to say something but then my mind pops the question of "Why would she care about what you have to say?". I think about that and then I just quit right there. I had pretty low self-esteem in the past and it is getting better but yeah that is a question that prevents me doing the best that I can. Or maybe I am trying too hard to say something so the girl automatically likes me. Advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


I'm going to ignore all of that post because I don't care. Perhaps your braces may be a problem to some girls, but others won't give a fuck. I need braces but I still get tons of chicks. Either learn how to hide them a little, get invisible one's, or just live with it. Besides, your stylish clothes will help. Now, until you do the checklist I'm not responding to anymore of your bullshit. It's not a hard list at all, just go do it. Think of this as me screening you to see if you're serious about improving or not. Don't piss me off by wasting my time.
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@playmaker: I will get back to you then.

Day 11: May 6th, 2012

Yesterday I had a pin that went into my foot and today I woke up an agonizing pain in foot. I was limping around the house lol and had to go to a walk in clinic. Other than the two girls I briefly chatted with at the walk-in clinic I did not get much done for today. Tomorrow I go back to college and even though there will not be that many people on campus, I will chat up every girl I see.
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(05-05-2012 01:50 AM)juggernaut92 Wrote:  After that I did a couple of approaches and then I ran into a buddy of mine who also does pickup. We just chill and talk for a while. He tells me of how he recently pulled and I just ask him how do you get good with girls to the point of getting them to come home with you. He tells me that you just gotta fuck up like countless times and then there will be that one time where you do get the pull and you will start getting better from that point.

Have you noticed that every single man who is good with women tells you this? That you have to risks a lot of rejection till you get better at it?

Nothing is stopping you except the voices in your head that tells you not to approach. Not the pin in your foot, your hunger, energy level or whatever excuse of the day is. Playmaker gave you a list of things to do as "background" work...do them. I told you to simply come up with a handful of conversation topics and go talk to women....do it.

The only thing I disagree with Playmaker on is to do his list first then go talk to women. NO! You do it simultaneously. You don't need any more excuses to continue not to approach.

Nothing else matters till you put yourself out there and risk the rejections so you can learn from them. Right now you're not learning anything because nothing is happening.

Quote:I was kinda frustrated because he was telling me of how he got good but he did not tell me anything in specific (as in what to say, how physical to get, etc). Then I realized that he knew it was better for me to just figure it out then for him to just tell me it all. We went our seperate ways and then I just went home.

He did tell you how he got good. He failed over and over again....countless times.

After all you've read on your own and on this forum, if you still think WHAT you say matters or there's some "how to"....then you haven't learned a damn thing.

So, how is the week of May 7th, 2012 going to be different than all the other weeks of your life? What are you going to do different?

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@baller: okay. I see that now. I used some convo material on the girl I talked to today. I am just writing out more conversation topics now.
Day 12: May 7th, 2012

I woke up to that stubborn foot pain again which was just becoming plain annoying. Today is my first day of second semester at college and it is nice seeing some of my friends. I chat up quite a few girls on random stuff. Then I am sitting in the library with my friend and I am staring at this blonde chick for 5 min then I finally go over and talk to her:
J:hey today I am taking initiative
HB:huh?
J:I am meeting cute girls
HB: oh nice.
Kind of a cheesy opener once I think about it lol.
She is sitting in front of a computer and half doing her work and half talking to me. We talk for a couple of minutes and we exchange a couple of stories. I tell her that I might get a job as a security guard at the school pub and she says she would not feel safe with me as the security guard lmao. Then she said that she has an asignment to finish so I said okay and then I asked if she wanted to hang out some time. She said she had a boyfriend so I say alright then just leave. I am kind of accustomed to getting the bf card. I just went to my last class for the day.

Tomorrow I will have my psyc class and everyone says that that class has mostly women in it so that should be pretty fun. My friend invited me out to do pickup at the local mall but I will just look like an idiot limping up to a girl and opening her lmao. The good thing about this is that I have extra time now to finish reading atlas shrugged which is an amazing book IMO.
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Right off the bat...please stop staring at girls for minutes on end before talking to them. They notice. 3 second rule....again.

Of all the things in the world that would be interesting to talk about....that is what you came up with? What did you expect the girl to say?

You guys are so fucking scared of women that even in the privacy of your own home you cannot come up with something more engaging then that? I swear to God if I asked my 3 year old nephew to come up with something to talk about with strangers, he could come up with something more engaging.

At this point, just ask them who do you think will win in a fight for Cybertron....Optimus Prime or Megatron. That's something he would ask you.

Don't talk about her looks or how you'll kick yourself or anything about what you're doing. Trust me...she's going to know you're interested because every fiber of your being is already telling her you're interested. Talk about anything else just to introduce something normal into the initial conversation.

You're so afraid that your nervous vibe already blows them out of the water. Try to stay in conversation for 10 minutes...5 minutes if you have to start there. Just come up with topics that is part interesting to girls and part interesting to you to start. You've read a ton of stuff at this point....just pick something...anything.

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Cybertron to win all the way (yes, I'm a geek).

Yup, the opening line sucked unfortunately. What's she going to say in response to that? You're basically saying you're just looking to talk to any girl that gives you the time of day. That wouldn't flatter me either. That one needs to go. Good news yo're approaching and every time you do you put the approach fear a step more behind you. Baller's right though, right now you need to practice conversation.
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@baller: alright so are you saying that I should not come in direct? the opener should be changed but how else should I grab her attention and make her focus on me?
@sexyback: I actually never looked at it that way and it does make sense. I guess I could try something different like saying "hey I just had to meet you".

Day 13: May 8th, 2012

I went to college today having high hopes for psyc class. Psyc courses apparantly are mostly female dominated. I get there and I was very disappointed. Almost no good looking girls in sight. Also, the class had as many males as it did females. I just wanted to run out of the class cause this was such a let down. I really want to transfer out of my college to one downtown but that would be way too much of a hassle. Just got to work with what I have.

We had to pick groups because we were going to have group presentations soon. We had 3 people and we needed 5 so I went around talking to all the girls and guys. We ended up in a group with this really cute girl. I got her bbm.

I realized the toll of school is really getting to me. Its only the second day and I am struggling a bit. I got to give school more priority. Today I am just staying in and catching up on everything.

Will probably start working out a bit at home. I have a pull up bar that I have not used in forever so I will make use of that now.
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Well you aren't in college for hot women, you're in college for education, so maybe it's a good thing there aren't many in your classes, you'll focus on getting your education done. I'm surprised though, here, I know for a fact psychology classes are at least 70% female students and the guys have the long hair tshirt sweat stain alternative thing going on.

Sounds like you're being pretty flakey Jugger. Will "probably" start working out... already loaded after 2 days of classes? Come on. Poor wee lad. What's going on with your foot? Is there any pus seeping from it? It sounds like you're spending too much mental energy worrying and complaining.

As for the library scenario... these are my thoughts on the matter, others might have more appropriate input but the way I see it ... I'd aim for casual conversation in a situation where she's sitting down and not going anywhere and it's clear who you are (another student obviously). By starting a conversation it's clear to her you want something. It's a different situation to where you're in the street and you have to catch someones attention or in a bar/club where she's dolled up looking to meet men and you need to be more aggressive and playful (due to competition). I think you would be better served with your mindset around campus primarily being making new friends, regardless if they have boyfriends or not. Any time you hang out with women you will become more comfortable around them and pick up on how they think and feel. So be friends with the girl in your psych project group, I'm sure she has plenty of cute friends.

And absolutely NO prolonged staring, it's creepy. You realise when someone's staring at you, so do women. Two looks. One you see her, then you can look again to make sure she's appealing, either then you get up and go over or you go back to reading or whatever it is you're doing/locating your balls.

Next time you sit down on a computer next to an attractive girl, go to youtube, put on some funny stand up comedian like .... err... Jack Dee... watch it, it'll make you laugh, then look over, say sorry for your laughter in a library and just say hi, my name is ____ . if she's too self concious you can ask her for her name and so forth. Make small talk. There's nothing wrong with being subtle.
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@sexyback: yeah that is true but still, girls should of been a a big part of my college experience haha. Yeah I guess I am just complaining a little too much. So your right I gotta stop and get it done.

Well that is an interesting point. It never occurred to me that I could do that but that is a smart idea. Will put this to use starting tomorrow.

Day 14: May 9th 2012

Today was kind of a bummy day. I did not feel like talking to any girls at all. I chatted up some ladies in the bus and sitting in my school cafeteria but nothing special. Kind of dropped a conversation in the middle when I was talking with a girl on the bus. My problem is that I am way too afraid of making things weird/awkward for her and for me so I just stop. But now looking back at it, I know that is completely idiotic cause I am just being social by talking to a stranger next to me.
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Juggarnaut - one of the reasons why journaling is an effect tool is because it allows you to see things you might not otherwise see.

Start from page one and count how many times you didn't approach women because you were either "tired, hungry, bad mood, didn't feel like it, etc".

Then isolate how many excuses you gave for each time whether it be "making things weird" or "was thinking I'm going to be rejected". Write them out and see what patterns you can find.

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@baller: good idea man. This should help me getting out of my funk. At this point I have received all the advice I can get. I just have to implement it...

Day 15: May 10th, 2012

Went to my local mall before college. I happened to see a girl I got rejected by a few days earlier and then after that I just went into a very negative mood. Passed plenty of girls who were walking alone in the mall. I even came ready with some material. I just did not want to approach. I was just beating myself up for it and then I left. I did some approaches at school and just had a crappy time there as well. Saw some cuties I wanted to approach but didnt. Gotta stick to the 3-second rule.
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Alright I have written probably what are my biggest sticking points right now. I will post it in my signature so I can see it everywhere and never forget it lol. Unfortunately, I see the advice and forget about it after a few days so this will help me. Gonna read this shit day and night.

"Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still"
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Juggernaut -

You're working very inefficiently. You spend hours upon hours a week in-field only to approach maybe 2 girls.

Playmaker gave you a list of things to do that is mandatory. Have you done any of them? Read them again and start to do them. You should be spending the majority of your time on these things that I call "background work".

Each day take 1 hour.....nothing more....1 hour and approach 5 women. And 5 women in 1 hour is me being very generous...but I'm taking your high level of AA into consideration. Spend this 1 hour efficiently. Don't walk around for 3 hours and talk to 1 girl. You'll feel like shit afterwards because all you're doing is spending 2 hours and 58 minutes with all your fears and bullshit that is in your head.

There is nothing more anyone can tell you. You've got to take action and do the background work and talk to women daily. Right now even if I magically gave you a girlfriend, she'll leave you in a heartbeat because no woman can be attracted to a man who is so full of fears and unwilling to face them down.

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@baller: Yes. That is one thing I have been wanting to work on for a long time. Realistically 5 women is an hour is easily doable. Yes and I understand that I have to keep working on this background stuff. The vocal projection is something I am having difficulty with. I kind of experience a snapback. I raise my voice but then I forget about improving vocal projection and then it goes back to nothing lol. I am working on body language/posture right now and I already have a few outfits that look good but planning to get more this coming week. I have the style guide but I dont know about wearing shorts lol. Kinda not stylish but the weather is starting to heat up so wearing jeans all the time is not the greatest idea. Also, thanks for the routine idea. It worked for me today. I only delivered two of my interesting stories/points and then we started talking about a lot of other stuffSmile

May 16: May 11th, 2012

Today was another day at college for me. I had to get a psyc textbook from some girl and apparantly she goes to a different campus than me and I had to to her to get the textbook. I was frustrated but it turned out to be a good thing.

I get to the campus and spot a cutie sitting with another girl. I check her out once and make sure not to keep starting at her. I get the textbook from the girl and then go straight up to the girl and talk to her.

I saw my usual stuff and tell her that she is cute. She is pretty receptive. I thought it would be hard talking to her because her friend was sitting right next to us but it turns out me and her just had a conversation and I basically did not talk to the friend at all LOL. We talked about a lot of stuff. I told her a couple of stories and she told me about what she does for fun. We talked about book for a little while and I told her she has to read Atlas Shrugged. I was actually enjoying the conversation and it was a lot of fun. She started asking me questions as well and teasing me a bit. Finally pickup actually seemed fun and not like some struggle lol. We talked for a good 10-15 minutes. She was on her lunch break and had to get back to work so I asked for her number. She said that she lives far away so I just said give me your facebook. I kind of need a way to get girls to meet up with me through facebook but I dont know how.

I walked out of the campus feeling great. I did not want to ruin this awesome moment so I did not hit on any girls for the rest of the day lol. I met a girl near the bus stand and we just chatted a bit and I asked whats with women and their crazy obsession with shoes. We had a good convo and I then went back to school.

On the way home there is this cute girl sitting on the bus in front of me and I just ask her about my situation and how I should get a girl to a meetup with me when I only have her facebook. She basically says that it would be a good idea and go from there.

Well I am happy with today. Staying in set for that long was a great victory for me.

"Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still"
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