Juggernaut's journal/FRs

[juggernaut92]

Day 17: May 12th, 2012

Today I had a lot of homework to do. I finished half way and then decided to do some spring shopping.

The mall that I went to was far away from me and when I got there I realized that it was closing time for the mall. That is when I just started feeling like shit. I didnt see any girls either so I decided to go to my local mall because I had to run some errands. I get there and it is pretty packed. Once again I dont feel like I am in the mood. I do some lame approaches but nothing special really. I know I was making excuses again but I just felt like It would be a better idea to do this tomorrow. I go run the errand and then I dip home.

[juggernaut92]

Day 18: May 13th, 2012

Well today I was just loaded with home work. I had to buy a couple of things so I went to my local mall. Just chatted with girls in the stores for today. I wanted to push myself but I just wanted to go home. Again I am making excuses and procrastinating. I also ended up losing my credit card

[juggernaut92]

Day 19: May 14th, 2012

Today I just had another day of college. It was weird because I actually felt like going up to random girls and just saying hi and just having fun and not caring about the outcome. I read a post about that on here and that was kind of pumped into me. For some weird reason I actually suppressed that feeling. That is probably the worst thing I could have done and I have no idea why I did it. I did talk to some girls at my college. I have an acne breakout and felt like if I hit on girls then they would just go like "why the fuck is this guy talking to me". Some pretty negative self talk. Regardless of my acne I will next time for sure.

I also started meditating and it felt pretty awesome. My mind tends to have like thousands of thoughts just going by so it is nice to kind of slow them down a bit.

[juggernaut92]

I am back!

I quit my 30 day challenge and just stopped. I just got really depressed for a bit and also needed to focus on school more cause this semester is way harder than last semester. I feel a lot better now and I am going to the gym consistently.

I felt kind of bummy today because I went to get help for math at college and the girl I met last week was actually one of the english tutors. I saw her and she saw me for a second and I didnt even go say hi to her. I just sat there, got help and then left. I dont know why but I just didnt want to feel awkward when I go up to her and say hi when she is surrounded by her coworkers. I know it sounds stupid but I have been doing this all my life so next time I see her I have to go straight up to her and say hi.

A good thing that happened today is that I number closed this girl at the gym. I used to have a class with her in highschool. She seemed pretty happy to talk to me. I will give her a call tomorrow and set up a day 2 sometime later this week.

I will go on a challenge later when I feel like I can take that commitment. For now I will just approach girls at school and at the mall when I have the time.

[juggernaut92]

Today I went to the mall and forgot the 3 second rule again lol. I talked to a few girls at school today so that was cool. I was getting help from a math tutor at school and she kinda liked me. I wanted to ask her out but was not too sure about that.

I called up the girl that I number closed yesterday. I shared stories with her and we were just vibing and it was pretty cool. She was very happy that I gave her a call. I will set up a day 2 sometime next week. She has school in a far away city and stays there for half of the week so that makes things complicated but I will find some time for us both.

[juggernaut92]

Today was a good day for me. I went to an outlet mall to finally update my wardrobe. I bought some nice shorts and tees. It was weird but I could not find jeans that fitted me and that were in the colour that I liked. I have to look else where but whatever.

I get on the bus a little late to go to college. I see this really cute girl sitting at the front. I walk all the way to the back for some strange reason lol. After hesitating I finally went up to her and talked to her. We had a pretty nice conversation and it lasted pretty long. I number closed her and proceeded to class. I called her tonight and it showed that she picked up but I could not hear anything on the line. My friend said it was a jealous boyfriend just being creepy LOL. I will try again next week.

As I am waiting for the bus home I see this cute girl. I hesitate once again and my crazy thought process begins lol. Once on the bus I indirectly open her. Then I transition into talking to her like I just directly opened her. We had a fun conversation. It was kind of a good thing I did not go direct cause she had a boyfriend and kid LOL. But yeah it was a good thing because I was flexing my conversation skills. I got to be a bit more playful and tease these girls a bit.

Also, I am chatting with the girl I number closed at the gym. we were just texting eachother about childhood tv shows. She will be in my city on tuesday so that is probably when I will try and get her out on a day 2 with me.

Victories:
-number closed a girl on the bus
-had long conversations with two women

Lessons:
-Cant hesitate and must follow the 3-second rule

[juggernaut92]

well I think I need an update here. I actually got the day two with the girl I # closed at the gym. Lets just say it was a good learning experience lol. I lead her around at the beginning and then we sit down in a garden area and talk for a while. We talk about stuff but it feels like I cant keep the convo going. The conversation dies at times and then we find a new topic to talk about. She always keeps initiating the topic so that is good.

After a while I get bored of talking about people we knew from highschool and crap like that so I just say:
J:hey you know what is really boring?
HB:what?
J:This conversation
HB:*starts gigling*

I hold off here for a few seconds and let the silence build and also I was afraid. I then lean over and try to kiss her. It had to be the most awkward moment of my life. She started leaning back and I dont know if i should further lean in so I just leaned back. I think both of us were blushing.

J:well that was awkward
HB: yeah I guess it was

We then start walking out of the garden and she says

HB: yeah I am busy and I think I gotta go call my boyfriend

LOOL. I guess she doesn't want to see me again. whatever. I felt pretty good because I was actually gonna wimp out on this and just leave without even trying to kiss her. Also, it felt pretty good to "burn" a set into the ground. Who knows maybe I have another chance with her. But that was a good reference experience.

I just gotta work on my time management a bit more. I know I can have time for pickup and a hectic school semester. I just gotta be more organized with my time.

[jigga]

First of all - HELL YES! Major props on

- Leading her around
- Paying attention to how she kept initiating conversation (doesn't necessarily mean she likes you, maybe she just doesn't like silence?)
- Pushing through the fear of rejection and going in for the kiss

Just because she rejected you, doesn't mean things are "done". As you continue to improve your mindset, you will slowly but surely physically embody these positive thoughts so it's like you said, maybe you have another chance with her.

I also want you to look back on your first post and celebrate on how far you've come. When I was in a similar position to yours, I easily forgot how far I'd come so now I have something reminding me everyday. I call it my victory jar. Basically, it's a small jar with folded up scraps of paper that each outline a case where I pushed through fear. Doesn't really matter how small it is and I know that if I haven't added a not in a while that I'm not doing enough to push myself. It's also great on days when I feel down when I just pick up and reflect on prior instances to feel badass again. And the notes don't have to all be about one topic. Every time you conquer fear somehow, pop a bad boy in there. Congratulations and I'm looking forward to more stories.

[juggernaut92]

@jigg: Thanks mate. I really appreciate it. I read a lot of the old pua books and most of them say if a girls continues the interaction then she is interested/attracted.That is what I choose to believe that cause it helps me motivate myself and continue the day 2/interaction.

Yes I was actually thinking about what you said and yesterday I made the decision to text her and she was pretty cool. We bantered a bit and it was nice. I thought she actually never wanted to see me again lol. I will try for another day 2 and see if I can seal the deal this time.

It is actually kinda cool how you mention this victory jar thing. I was actually listening to an audio tape and the guy mentions how you should have a victory log. Like a notebook where you write down all your victories. It really did appeal to me and I will probably start doing it as soon as I buy a notebook. I think the victory log sounds a bit more appealing cause your victories are all right in front of you.

Update: Like I said earlier. I am texting that girl who I had a day 2 with. I will probably get her out on another day 2. The only thing is that I feel like I wanna skip all the talking and just get right to making out and closing LOL. I have a strong drive for it as well as that is why I stopped our conversation and then tried to go in for the kiss. However, I know that a lot of girls wont get ramped up as quickly so I gotta keep talking. I guess I should focus on talking more about what I am interested in. Gotta work on this whole conversation thing. I got midterms coming up but I will try and make sure to squeeze some time out for pickup.

[juggernaut92]

Alright. So I came up with a plan for getting through my school and doing pickup at the same time. I will designate two days to going out and approaching chicks in day game and I will go out to a bar every two weeks on either friday or saturday. The two days that I will go out for sure are monday after school and friday after school. I will watch my time pretty closely and if I have any free time then I will also spend it beasting on girls.

Another goal that I will work towards is becoming social with EVERYONE. I go to college 5 days a week and during my time in school and in the bus there are tons of people in my proximity. I will talk to each one. If they arnt receptive then I will drop the convo and if they are then we will continue. I find that doing this really helps me getting unstifled and putting me in more of the mood to approach girls.

I will start doing this starting this monday. I got midterms in two weeks so that week I will not approach at all. I will just be a lot more weary of my time with pickup. I am practicing better time management and will make the best use of my free time.

[juggernaut92]

I just finish my midterm and I am waiting for the bus stop while I notice this cute chick standing right beside me. I just go indirect and we start talking. She seems pretty happy to be talking to me and we continue talking on the bus. The bus ride is probably 30 min long and I cant keep a conversation for that long. My friend texts me that I should just start saying retarted shit but I was too uncomfortable with other people around on the bus lol. I am glad I went for it though. This is a good warm up for the next 10 days to come. I will be hitting up toronto with wings so that will be fun and maybe I can get rid of my sticking point of running out of things to say.

[juggernaut92]

June 23, 2012

So this was an epic day. I hit up downtown and meet up with another guy who is into pickup. This guy is pretty cool but he does not wanna approach at all or he does indirect and doesnt go anywhere. I was like w/e I did my own thing and hit up a few girls. All of them blowouts and some of them were married.

At around 7 my buddy gets off work and comes to toronoto as well. This guy is amazing and has already 2 lays from day game. I watch this guy work and get inspired. We eventually meet another dude who is into pickup and he is just as good as my buddy. It was pretty fun hitting up downtown with your friends. Some girls we would just troll after we go blown out. I need to work on my plowing. I give up way too easily. I am really proud of myself though cause before I only approached a max of 4 girls in a day but today I approached around 10-12.

Hanging around other guys who are good is probably one of the best ways to be good at this. I should have realized this long time ago. Now that I do, I will go out with other people as soon as I get the chance.

[Thor]

It always helps when you are with someone who can push you or with a group of guys who can inspire you to chat up girls. Keep it up bro.

[juggernaut92]

@thor: yes. I was too stubborn to do this when i started lol and thanks

June 24th, 2012

So today was not that great of a day. I hit up my local mall and I just ended up on opening one girl which was an automatic blowout. I though it would be easy today because of how I did yesterday but it just didnt seem to work that way. I regressed into a chode again lol. I will make sure to push myself tomorrow while I am in Toronto.

[juggernaut92]

June 25th, 2012

So today I hit up toronto again. Before going to the subway I had to use the washroom at a nearby building and spot a cute girl sitting there eating her lunch. I go to the washroom and then come out and contemplate whether or not I should approach her lol. I finally decide to sack up and approach her. It goes pretty well. I do a few cold reads on her and then I qualify her a bit. I ask her to tell me something that no one would ever guess about her. She had to think about it and she told me she was in a lot of sports teams in unversity. She says that it was nice to meet you and then I ask her for her phone number and then she pulls out the boyfriend card lol. I told her that I am only in the area a few times a week so we could have affairs. She wasn't that amused by that comment lol. I just shake her hand and tell her it was nice meeting her. I get on the subway and head to downtown.

I get to Eatons. I approach quite a few girls. The thing is that I just didnt know what to say. It was so frustrating because I had their full attention and had them stop for me but I just couldnt continue the interaction. A lot of the girls I talked to said they had work to go to and were in a hurry. I just became a chode right then and there and was like "okay bye" lol. I didnt not even want to plow even though I should of. There is another memorable set I had just outside of eatons. There was a chick just standing alone so I open her

J:Hey, I thought you were really cute and I just had to meet you *extends hands*
HB: sorry I dont talk to strangers *smiles*
J: wow so are you one of those typical toronto girls?

We just talk for a bit and she tells me she is from georgetown. She tells me she comes to toronto to work. She tells me to guess where she is from. I say turkey and then say iran and get it right the second time. I bust her balls a bit and say that I thought she would be a bit darker as she was pretty pale. She tells me she has to leave to work. I just say "okay bye" again. I am all passive and shit for some reason. She seemed pretty happy to see me and I should of went for the number but I didnt.

I get a bit hungry and head to the foodcourt to eat. After eating I am feeling way too tired so I decide to just call it a day and head home. I did one more approach and the girl stopped and then she heard what I said and then she just walked away lol w/e

[juggernaut92]

June 26th, 2012

Head to downtown Toronto once again. I meet up with wings and we go hit up the streets of Toronto. For some reason I am just not feeling it today. Made a few measly approaches and left early.

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[The Notorious PhD]

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Juggernaut, I feel as though you might be putting too much pressure on yourself to succeed (I do it too). And it makes you feel bad when you don't.

Cut yourself some slack. On days I'm feeling meh, I still go out and do a minimum number of approaches (usually 3). But I tell myself that if I can do 3 approaches, I'll call it a success. That usually makes me feel better. Eventually I get out of whatever funk I'm, and meanwhile I've latently built-up all this resilience.

[Creatine Dreams]

Maybe take a step back and just try going out for the purpose of having fun?

Like PHD said, it seems like you are putting a lot of pressure on yourself.

[juggernaut92]

PhD & creatine dreams: Yeah I am putting pressure on myself for sure. Its just I want to be amazing at this. Not just great. Like I am reading up on other field reports in other forums and there are guys who pull in broad daylight. That is what I am working toward. Besides If I am going for the whole day I might as well go crazy. But you guys are right. I do put pressure on myself. Its just my friend told me he sometimes approaches 30-50 girls in one day. Also, my friends just spot a girl and chase after her lol. I guess I am comparing myself to them a little bit too much. One thing that I am going to do now is just give myself a pat on the back for any number of approaches I have done.

June 28th, 2012

Well I head to downtown for some gaming. I get in a couple of approaches. Instead of beating myself over the low number of approaches I got I am just going to congratulate myself on those approaches. I did this today and on the subway home I felt pretty good about myself as opposed to before where I just felt terrible. Tomorrow will be a better day.

[juggernaut92]

June 20th, 2012

I head to downtown to do some gaming. Start with some indirect approaches to get the ball rolling. I head to Eatons centre to meet a wing and then we hit the streets again. I open a couple of sets. Most of the time I ran out of things to say and just eject lol. I was talking to this one girl and opened her and she seemed pretty receptive. I remember something about how you should be the one to keep the conversation going and i talk about how I like to take ice cold showers and she just looked at me like I was crazy and turned around and walked away LOL. w/e. I did a few more sets and head back to Eatons. I was pretty tired so I decide to do one last approach. I open this asian chick and she seems receptive but I once again run out of things to say and then I just ask her if she wants to hang out and she give me the bf card. I need to work on that and be a man and just tell her to give me the number as opposed to asking. Also, gotta make more of an effort to plow the conversation and say just about anything to continue the conversation.

While I was waiting for the bus, there is this cute girl beside me and I open her by asking her if the bus is on time or not. We had a good conversation going and she seemed to like me but then while I was talking to her on the bus she just slips in that she has a boyfriend lol. Also, I need to make the conversation more man to woman rather than freind to freind. I get off the bus and tell her that it was nice to meet her and she says likewise. I am happy with my day today and head home.

It will be a long while before I will be back in toronto but the time I was there was pretty fun and I did learn a lot.

[The Notorious PhD]

Regarding running out of things to say: how long are you talking to these girls for? 1 min? 5? 10?

[juggernaut92]

1 minute and sometimes less than one minute. Like I just try and find something super interesting to say or think of something to say to the girl that will hook her attention and cant come up with anything lol. If you can give me advice on this then that would be helpful.

[Dragonslayer]

I generally found out that it isn't as difficult to get an initial conversation going. Even the dreaded “interview mode” is better than saying nothing at all. That doesn't just apply to meeting women, but of course people are more patient in situations where general socializing is accepted or expected. But before you eject, I'd say just ask her where she lives, what she does for a living, or anything else you want to know about her. You should generally be able to transition into a normal conversation from there on, it's just a matter of practice and getting used to situations, because we humans think more clearly when we don't feel too nervous.

[The Notorious PhD]

(07-01-2012 01:19 AM)juggernaut92 Wrote:  Like I just try and find something super interesting to say or think of something to say to the girl that will hook her attention and cant come up with anything lol. If you can give me advice on this then that would be helpful.

Okay, stop trying to come up with Woody Allen-esque cutting and hilarious one-liners, unless you do that with everyone on a regular basis. That cognitive pressure of trying to be a different person is what's holding you back.

A simple -- but confidently-delivered -- hey you're cute! I'm juggernaut, what's your name?, is far better to get things going. Converse as you would with a friend - sometimes funny, sometimes serious, but always yourself.

For instance, on the first day of college, I'm sure you spoke to a bunch of your new dorm/class-mates, asking each other about their backgrounds/hobbies/plans/etc...talk with these girls the same way.

If things still don't go anywhere, don't be afraid to tell her: Don't you know who the fuck I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!

P.S. Internet meme. Not recommended in real life.