Juggernaut's journal/FRs

[juggernaut92]

Background Info: I am starting out on my pick up journey and consider myself to be a beginner. Although, I have done quite a few approaches in the past, I would still say I'm a beginner just because I still have not hit that point where I can just go up and approach any woman and make it fun.

I am 19 years old and I live in Mississauga, Canada. I go to college and live at home (hoping to change that soon). I have no experience with girls currently. Still a virgin, never had a girlfriend, never had a kiss. I went on one date that didn't go quite too well lol.

I am actually a member of RSD Nation as well. I am still debating whether to still post there or not. They have a lot of great advice and tactics for getting girls, but I read Mark's website and his book and the stuff he says really resonates within me. So I will be starting a new journal here. I will mostly be doing daygame at my college and at shopping malls. Once in a while, I will go to bar or club but my parents are pretty strict so that will happen rarely.

Will regularly update this and will go on a 1 or 2 month challenge as soon as my exams are over

[Creatine Dreams]

Good luck on your journey!

Also, three things.

1. You are in college. This is a great place to meet women! One of my regrets is not trying to meet more women in college so take advantage of your circumstances and have fun!

2. Move out of your parent's house ASAP. You might incur more debt but the social development you will gain from living on your own will be well worth it.

3. Hit that gym! Lots of dudes in college party too much and their looks and health go to shit. Hit that gym and you will be ahead of the game!

[Thor]

Juggernaut,

Your still young the world is your Oyster mate. I wish I was back at college surrounded by all those girls ;-). Look foreward to reading how things go on your journey.

Peace..

[juggernaut92]

@creatine: thanks man. My college is a bit different but I can still have fun there. I am trying to get the funds to move out and I am also hitting the gym already.
@oldguy: yes that is true. College is a great place with lots of girls in it.

April 9th, 2012

So in the morning, as I am waiting for my bus, there is a cute girl just standing at the bus stop with me. I hesitate for a while and then I finally just open her. I ask her if she goes to the same college and we just make small talk. The bus comes and we get on and she sits far away and I sit at the front. I wanted to approach her again after I got off the bus but I thought it would look creepy lol. I really got to get over this though.

After school I take the bus home all the way to the mall. I see tons of cute girls there all by themselves but i don't approach! I am in a bad mood and also am really hungry as well. I just walk around the mall for an hour and then I just feel like I want to get out of there.

I think the problem with me is that I really put too much pressure on myself and care a little too much about what other people will think of me if I approach a girl in the mall (even though I know plenty of guys who do this). Also, for some reason I just dont believe that I can do it and then see no use in approaching a girl. Maybe I am just a bit depressed or something but this is something that I am looking forward to overcome.

Also, me and my parents had a heartfelt conversation today. I told them I wanted to move out and they started opening up about the past. They said they did the best parenting they could possibly do and they both actually cried too. It was nice to kinda have this conversation. I was thinking of exploding on them but i kept my composure. I felt empathy for my parents. They had it hard as well. I felt we understood each other a bit more. Before we finished talking my sister came home and I didnt want to have the discussion in front of her so I just left. I still want to move out but I will tell my parents it is just because I want to see myself grow into a great person and not because I hate them.

Not much done in terms of pick up but made good progress in the area of my relationships and that is always great

[juggernaut92]

April 10th, 2012

So today was just another day in college for me. I really want to transfer out of this college because it is actually not that fun and there are cute girls but not that many.

Me and my friend were just bumming around. I have still yet to make a social circle. We are sitting in the cafeteria eating and then I make the smart decision to stop being a pussy and take action. I see this cute girl about to walk in to the cafeteria and I just head for the door and approach her right when she enters.

She was busy and I tried to get her BBM but she gave me the boyfriend objection. sad face. For some reason my heart started beating heavily after that. Maybe it was the poutine that I ate LOL. Direct approaching on my college campus is very frustrating because you see these people everyday. There is roughly 16,000 people at my school but I actually remember random people's faces and our campus is not that big. I will just keep my approaches to a minimum on campus because I would not want to be that creepy guy or at least I cannot deal with that image for now lol.

I will most likely do a desensitization exercise after my exams where I will have around 2 weeks off.

[juggernaut92]

April 11th, 2012

So today I went to college and got out of my classes earlier than usual.

I was sitting in the cafeteria eating my food and then I noticed this cute asian girl sitting at a table to the left of me. I hesitate for quite a bit because I dont want to make it seem like i have been staring at her for a while (even though I have been lol). I decide to finally go up and talk to her. She is actually happy to talk to me. I do a cold read and get it right for the first time lol. We talk about a lot fo stuff from school to sports to work and we were having a nice conversation. I was thinking of just leaving and getting the number but then I stayed and talked more. She about living on res and then she suddenly says something about her boyfriend. So i guess I wont be getting the number in this case. After a while a guy comes over and sits down. I presume this to be the boyfriend. He just sits quietly and scrolls through his phone. It would be epic if I would of gotten her number right in front of her bf lmao. I say it was nice meeting you and then I head home. Even though I didnt get a number I still got some conversation experience so I'm happy with that. I gotta push myself much harder though.

[juggernaut92]

Finally done my exams and I will start posting regularly now.

I just want to enjoy today and chill out because I just finished my last exam today so no FR for today. Starting tomorrow I will start Mark's desensitization exercise that he wrote about in one of his articles. I feel like I can approach a girl and talk to her, but I can not do it consistently. This should help me out and get some level of consistency going with at least getting rid of approach anxiety and opening girls.

Also, some goals that I will work toward are:

-Be more honest

-Get back to working out 3x a week

-Try and make 1 approach a day

-Stop filtering what I say to people

-Finish reading books ( I have like over 40 unread books lol)

-Update wardrobe

-Follow my diet more strictly (Primal Blueprint)

-Push my comfort zone

Anyways, you can expect some FRs pretty soon. Also, any advice is appreciated.

[juggernaut92]

Alright, well today I just went out to my local mall and talked to store clerks and employees. I just asked them how their day is going. I kind of felt weird just asking them that when I really did not need anything but I guess that is the point, to push yourself. Tomorrow I will do the same thing only more people this time. Basically taking small little steps and going to work my way up. Even though this was a small step, I just did not want to go out of my house and do this. However, I fought the resistance and did it.

[Thor]

Juggs its cool to ask people how there day is going and engage in some banter and small talk. Mark wrote an article called the emotional vampire which talks about showing gratitude. I now make a habit of complementing staff in shops but not expecting anything from them.

[juggernaut92]

@oldguy: Yeah I am seeing that now. Its just still hard to percieve that as normal behaviour because no one does it. From now on, I will ask every employee how their day is going. Just to continually put myself in the habit.

Anyways, yesterday I just did the same and asked employees how their day is going. It felt kinda weird again because I was not actually going shopping or anything, I was just asking random employees how their day was going lol. Kind of lame but what ever. It will pay off soon enough.

Today I will be asking 20 people what the time is. This should be fun and we will see how this works out.

[juggernaut92]

So today I went around asking people for what time it is. Any place other than a mall is a bad place to do this because there are clocks everywhere in the gym, library, etc.

For some reason I was getting anxious over asking people what the time is. I was also getting into my head. I was like wtf. Why is this happening. I did around 15 and then I went home as I had to run an errand. I might do more to get to 20 depending on if I have the time or not.

For tomorrow I will be asking 10 attractive girls what the time is. Big step up LOL. Not really but I want to take this slow because I don't want to crash and burn again.

[SeXyBaCk]

Good stuff, keep going. Nothing like desensitisation to get rid of an anxiety or uneaseness or just limbering up. I lived in the GTA for a year once, North York. Remember going to the .....I believe it was called Yorkdale mall, just off the 401. That frigging road, every single day of the year I'd have to be on it. It's like all of canada had to get on the road when I wanted to drive down it.

[juggernaut92]

Really? that is pretty sick. Yorkdale is a pretty sick mall and yeah that road is pretty busy lol.

I am trying desensitization because I can do direct approaches but only when I can only muster up the courage once in a while lol which is not cool so I'm trying to get it consistent.

[SeXyBaCk]

Although I'm the youngest member in my family, whenever there's some kind of issue involving third parties I always end up getting tasked to deal with the uncomfortable situations (for example a billing complaint, even if it's totally unrelated to me). It's obviously tedious and I was pondering about why that is a few weeks back.

I have absolutely no qualms about getting confrontational when its called for and getting what I want out of my interactions with strangers. I do however remember when I was 14,15,16 calling up places and making my own appointments or dealing with authorities of some sort did made me too feel uneasy at times.

I came to the conclusion I did a few jobs back in the day which really helped me get rid of any kind of approach anxiety I might have had. At one point I was selling internet contracts to people in the street. I had to do some care internships in hospitals, just walking into rooms, waking people, saying good morning, washing them, that sort of thing helped me get completely comfortable around strangers.

So my advice to someone having trouble approaching and motivating themself to get out there...just get some lame promotional job in town selling something or getting signatures. Can be for a good cause too...like WWF or cancer research memberships. You can always hit on cute girls doing that, and you can get away with having some lame temp job while you're young. You really want to get to a point where you're standing in the queue in the supermarket and a girl turns and notices you you automatically say hey, how are you... instantly, that throws people off and starts interactions.

[juggernaut92]

Excellent advice mate. I am looking into getting a job at my college as either security at the pub or a marketing coordinator. If I cant get that then I will look into other jobs that give me opportunity to talk to people. That would be a great way of desensitizing yourself.

[Jon]

Do you have a car? If so, I would seriously consider going into toronto for daygaming - the area around U of T is great for cafes, shops etc. You can totally just talk to women on the street or in cafes.

[juggernaut92]

(04-24-2012 02:59 PM)Jon Wrote:  Do you have a car? If so, I would seriously consider going into toronto for daygaming - the area around U of T is great for cafes, shops etc. You can totally just talk to women on the street or in cafes.

I do but my rents will never let me take it out. I can get there fairly easily by train and it would cost me only $6 to go there and go back. Its just I am planning to go there for my later days where I will just open these girls with a direct opener or something. I also got to learn my way around toronto so it would be pretty good if I went there to do pickup. The only problem I see with Toronto is that it is PACKED with PUAs now lol. I am on another forum and there are like around like 50-60 guys who do pickup in the downtown area lol. It does not scare me but just gets into my head sometimes.

So does this mean that you live in Toronto as well?

[Jon]

No, Im in NY, but I have a lot of friends and some family there, so I have been a bunch. It's not packed with PUAs. Toronto is a big city. There are literally tens of thousands (if not 100,000 or more) of single women in their 20s out on any given day in downtown toronto. You've got at most a couple hundred puas working at any given time, which is a generous number, and most of them don't approach anyway. I live in NYC, I go out in the exact areas that PUAs go to. I see one maybe every few months, and I think I have seen one bootcamp and one daygame workshop. The one exception is that there is one bar that tons of companies do bootcamps at, so it is fucking swarming with bootcamp alums, but thats it.

Go now. You don't need a direct opener. This will also make it more interesting. You say you feel weird in the mall with nothing to do but pick up women? well, now you have a legit reason to be in toronto - you are trying to get to know the city.

[Mace]

(04-24-2012 03:13 PM)juggernaut92 Wrote:  

(04-24-2012 02:59 PM)Jon Wrote:  Do you have a car? If so, I would seriously consider going into toronto for daygaming - the area around U of T is great for cafes, shops etc. You can totally just talk to women on the street or in cafes.

I do but my rents will never let me take it out. I can get there fairly easily by train and it would cost me only $6 to go there and go back. Its just I am planning to go there for my later days where I will just open these girls with a direct opener or something. I also got to learn my way around toronto so it would be pretty good if I went there to do pickup. The only problem I see with Toronto is that it is PACKED with PUAs now lol. I am on another forum and there are like around like 50-60 guys who do pickup in the downtown area lol. It does not scare me but just gets into my head sometimes.

So does this mean that you live in Toronto as well?

Man, the sheer amount of PUAs I hear about from the Toronto area is stagerring. And I believe the PUA community originated there as well - and I'm including the two grand poobas of PUAs - Mystery and Tyler Durden.

There must be something seriously dysfunctional with the dating & mating scene up there if so many guys are getting into PUA.

I mean I don't hear about nearly as many PUAs in Chicago for instance - a city comparable in size to Toronto.

So what's the matter with Toronto?

[SeXyBaCk]

I liked living in TO, though I wasn't single for long, and it was back in 2003/4 so I don't know jack about the dating scene nowadays, I had no problem finding me a woman right away. There were a lot of cultured, young, single women around, I remember that alright. I did notice however that although everyone calls themself canadian people seemed to have groups of friends that all had the same cultural background. Like the girl I was seeing was italian and most of her friends were italian and I ended up going to like italian weddings and everyone was more italian than in italy. I'm sure they go bonkers when the Pope visits too.

The crucial bit though is: culturally diverse...lots of beautiful girls.

[juggernaut92]

@jon: you make a good point. I will go to TO tomorrow and pick up every girl in sight lol
@mace: lol. Well one guy from another forum said that toronto has the most guys who grow up to be chodes LOL. I really dont know the real reason but there are loads of beautiful girls so probably that would get them motivated to get them into this stuff.
@sexyback: hmm that was a while ago. Yes that is true. Hard to break into a group sometimes though. So how did you do pickup back then? MM or were you more of a natural?

Well I went out again today and went around talking to women at my local mall. Once again I felt really dumb going around the mall and asking where tim hortons is lol. I only talked to 6 attractive girls as opposed to the 10 I was suppose to do. I also saw this cute asian girl who I used to work with. She had the most amazing ass ever lol. I was just talking to her and the conversation was so bland. I wanted to break out with a story or something but I had so less energy that I didn't. I just said goodbye to her and left the mall. I really got to work sleeping habits so I get more energy throughout the day.

Tomorrow will be an important day for me as I will be asking the girls for the time and then asking the girls how their day went lol. I am only eager to find out the results of this because absolutely know one does this and it kind of makes me look like I am trying to sell something lol. But yea, I will go for the full 10 girls and maybe even more as I will be heading out to Toronto.

[SeXyBaCk]

Hah... this is pretty funny. Tim Horton's is the coffee shop chain right? I'm pretty sure that's where I met my italian beauty... over banana muffin or waffles or something. You're already at the source then, you're seeing plenty of attractive girls around, which should be motivation enough. If you're brutally honest with yourself, was it really a lack of energy that stopped you from being more engaging with the asian girl? Unless I'm hungover or have the worst jetlag, I can't recall struggling for motivation talking to a pretty woman with a nice ass.

As for sleep, school medicine talks about keeping "sleep hygiene". Amongst other things they said sleep the same hours every night, say 12-7, in a dark, quiet room (close the blinds), no food or booze right from sleep either. I have to be up fairly early in the morning for work but a routine definitely works best for me. Also when I wake up, I give myself 3-5 minutes but then I'm up, and in the daylight and doing stuff, like get in the shower, get dressed, don't hang around in the dark in front of a computer screen. Kickstart your day instead. I get the occasional afternoon low between 2 and 4 pm where I just take 15 minutes closing my eyes...try to meditate..then force myself out into the fresh air for 10 minutes, usually after that I'm good to go and concentrate for another 3-4 hours before I exercise.

[juggernaut92]

@sexyback: yes tim hortons is the coffee shop chain. That is pretty cool man. Yep lol you got me. I guess what it is was that I really did not believe I could get this girl in a million years lol. I had a shitty mindset and then I just figured what is the use? and then I just left. I need to change my beliefs but it is very hard to do. Also, it is probably about pushing my comfort zone as well. I was just wondering what would she think about me suddenly hitting on her when we just had a platonic friendship for like 2 years. Stupid things like that swirl around in my mind. I am getting back to meditating every day and it helps a bit.

[SeXyBaCk]

Those are indeed some stupid ideas going through your mind right there. Now that you've called them out though, you can't let them dominate your actions any further, that would be too irrational. They're in the same category as "did I lock the house" or "maybe I mucked up the exam". Benign little fears our mind makes up to keep us entertained.

You owe it to yourself and the world wide web whom you've shared this with to hit on the asian girl when you see her. Better yet, seek her out. Does she still work in the same place? Just make your way over there when you're in the area or something. Your beliefs will change when you start making some moves. Women, just like men enjoy being hit on, it's flattering, a real nice ego booster. It's an entirely positive act all round. You're spreading some feel-good.

In case you're too hesitant in front of girls, start on your own mum, compliment your 55 year old neighbour, some lady behind the counter of the bakery and work your way up from there. Just get in the habit of flattering, be a charmer.

[juggernaut92]

@sexyback: Well she actually works at victorias secret in that mall so I know where she works. hmm that is an interesting point you make. About actually doing it and then the beliefs change. I think I will go with that point. Its just in the back of my mind I still believe I will fuck it up and not get the girl also I am scared of rejection as well. I will work on myself and when I feel ready, I will seek her out.

Today I went to TO. It was the biggest waste of time ever. I just walked around aimlessly and did not do anything. The goal was to ask girls what the time was and then ask them how their day is going. I just could not bring myself to do that. It just seemed too strange to stop a girl and ask for the time and then ask her how her day is going lol. My mind gets in the way of so many things lol. Tomorrow I will go for it again.