Inner game issue?

[Jean DeCuir]

Hey guys!

So i'm the guy who was "dating" 2 girls who were not that much into him. I said i was giving a last try to my favorite girl and so i did.

(Now pay attention because this is hilarious... it's one of those epic fail situations we, the "pick up guys", get to live from times to times:o)

So i spoke to her and managed to scheduale a date for today. A national guru who trained with Mystery told me to call her 15 minutes before the date and tell her i wouldn't make it because that would restore her attraction levels. Very cool strategy but i promised myself i would give her the doo bee doo before the end of the week so i didn't follow his advise.

Anyway, doesn't matter, because she texted me saying she was going to the mall so she didn't knew if she would make it in time ( she sent me this text message at arround 2 and our date was at arround 4)
Me: Let's cancel it then...
her: Can't you make it to night? ( she originally wanted it to be at night but i couldn't because i have to wake up early)
me: I wanted to, but i have an exam tommorow morning. I can only do it at arround 6 because i'm going my friends house to get some stuff.
her: Okay
me: At 6, same place
her: I don't know if i can do that. I'm going to the mall...
Me: ( playing the straight macho man inside of me) Girl, you have 5 minutes to decide.
Her: I'm going to the mall and ( place where our date was supposed to be) at night only ( she is going out tonight, to that place)
Me: Good luck. ( this is basiclly me ending everything we had)
Her: U mad?

So the girl trolled me, as you can see...

That thing of going to the mall sounds she's playing hard to get ( more like a "shit test") but i didn't rationalize that and either way i can't say if she doesn't want to be with me at all or was just messing with my head, but i don't care.

Now the important part:

I've been analysing myself and if i don't fuck a girl at after a specific time of meeting her (after the first 2 dates +-) and/ or if she isn't showing me the level of investment i wanted her to show i just get kinda annoyed and emotional and end screwing up.

or

the girls lose the investment and the hornyness after they sense i don't really have a very cool lifestyle, wich is kinda true because i feel like i should work more on that, trying to get my driving license and get a job as a barman and such...

Comments?

Thanks.

[Chaos]

Or maybe she was telling the truth, really wanted to see you but also wanted to go to the mall.

I think all this games are just stupid. Why didn't you just rescheduled? Just tell her, "oh, bad luck, I really wanted to see you but I can't make it tonight, why don't we postpone it for tomorrow, same place, same time?"

Then if she gaves you another excuse you can simply move on... If not you have your date the next day.

[Trickster]

Seems to me like one of two things happened.

1) This girl wasn't super into you and passive aggressively blew you off.

2) She legitimately couldn't make it.

Either way, you are way over thinking things. If 1, then if you asked her out again she'd either ignore you, say no, or find another way to blow you off. If 2, then she'd reschedule. Simple. Trying to analyze her behavior and asking whether she's "shit testing" you or not is detrimental. The less you think and obsess, the easier your life will be.

Jean DeCuir Wrote:I've been analysing myself and if i don't fuck a girl at after a specific time of meeting her (after the first 2 dates +-) and/ or if she isn't showing me the level of investment i wanted her to show i just get kinda annoyed and emotional and end screwing up.

I can relate to this. It sounds like for you, you're pushing for sex out of a needy place as oppose to a place of desire and passion. I make this mistake too.

[Alvar]

Like the others said, she'll only play games with you if you play along or you tolerate it. Next time try taking her for face value and being straightforward with her.

Quote:I've been analysing myself and if i don't fuck a girl at after a specific time of meeting her (after the first 2 dates +-) and/ or if she isn't showing me the level of investment i wanted her to show i just get kinda annoyed and emotional and end screwing up.

I had the same last year. If I didn't have sex on the same night I would get insecure and convince myself that I wouldn't work things out. I even refused to give my phone to a girl who almost begged for it. It's probably your own insecurity related to past experiences (in my case), low self-esteem, etc...

Quote:A national guru who trained with Mystery told me to call her 15 minutes before the date and tell her i wouldn't make it because that would restore her attraction levels.

Who told you this joke, Zezé Camarinha?

If you were looking for feedback on negs, games and all kind of tactics you'd be asking these questions somewhere else, not here. Here, most of us care about behaviour.
There's a good book for you on the subject, I think it's called Models...

[Trickster]

Jean DeCuir Wrote:A national guru who trained with Mystery told me to call her 15 minutes before the date and tell her i wouldn't make it because that would restore her attraction levels. Very cool strategy but i promised myself i would give her the doo bee doo before the end of the week so i didn't follow his advise.

Who, exactly, told you this? Because canceling on someone at the last minute (or 15 minutes) is not "attractive behavior" but kinda a dick move. Any self respecting woman (or person, for that matter) would be pissed off.

[Mark]

1. Whoever gave you that advice about cancelling the date, never ask him for advice again. That's fucking horrible advice.

2. Good for you standing up and expecting her to follow through on what she said. This is good progress. You'll lose some girls this way, but you'll also win others over much harder by standing your ground.

3. This was not a "shit test" and this was not "hard to get." This was "she doesn't like you that much." Harsh truth. Read these posts:

http://postmasculine.com/shit-test-paranoia
http://postmasculine.com/phone-numbers

[Jean DeCuir]

thanks a lot, guys!