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IdE's journal/FRs/stream of whatever
Feel free to move to the appropriate forum, or completely ignore cause this will probably be only interesting to myself, but I was inspired by HAKR's journal and Mark's comments on journaling and posting whatever publicly will probably bring helpful comments (hopefully, maybe). It's not like these forums are bloody busy anyway and they could use some content.

PART 1: A THOROUGH REAPPRAISAL OF MY LIFESTYLE aka THE STATE OF MY GAME

The basics: I'm a 26 year old computer programmer and musician based out of Los Angeles. I'm competent enough at both to live comfortably and have an active social life but I'd like to be more successful with women and do more with my careers.

Boring careerist stuff: Currently an app developer in the entertainment insurance biz writing shit in several languages. Basically, it's an office job, I have an office that overlooks the ocean, I'm slightly underpaid, but I really can work 8-3 or so and work from home whenever I damn well please, so it's comfortable and pays the bills, but I'm not pushing myself much. In my other life, I sing/write/play guitar (but record all the parts) in a band and DJ every other week or so, which pays about 1/25th as much (a net loss given how much gear costs) but is about 25 times more fun and rewarding.

Social life: I currently go out 2-3 times a week. At the moment, I play in 4 sports leagues on top of that (2 ultimate frisbee, basketball, bowling), which I realized almost at the moment I committed to that is entirely too much. I'm very competitive and it keeps me in shape, but from now on, two leagues at once, tops. They're not even super social leagues like kickball or dodgeball where I'd meet girls (ultimate is coed but frsibee girls are ugly). I have plenty of friends to go out with and who want to hang out, to the point where a lot of the time, I just want 2-3 days a week to hang out at home and read or work on music, or, you know, actually rest.

Current state of relations: Haven't had a serious relationship for a few years and in a bit of a dry spell for 2012, which is probably how I have enough time to write this post. Had several girls flake out on me recently for what reason or another, which makes me think I'm the worst texter ever/come off as extremely needy cause I did not have a hard time meeting them or getting their numbers (that or LA girls are the flakiest people ever, which may also be true). Over the last month and a half or so they include:
- OKCupid girl (Cal St art student, cute, brunette, glasses - at least this one made it to a date! And I ain't never ever see her again)
- The one I met at Los Globos (curvy, Texan, blonde, BBQ, doesn't like to call me back, whatever)
- The one I met while DJing in Hollywood (skinny, blonde, fellow DJ, extremely shy, not surprised she ain't got back, whatever)
- Crazy Reddit girl (I met this chick cause I needed some wireless to finish up some work and she offered up her coffee shop on Reddit, she might be the only person I know to have an ED entry dedicated to her, I ran into her again while DJing a punk rock show and she punched her number into my phone unsolicited but whatever efforts to hang out again are unreturned. Actually quite a bit cooler/nicer than that ED entry makes her seem but still 99% sure she's actually crazy)
- Friend of a friend who I met at her birthday (Hispanic, curvy, for some reason really wants to sing karaoke with me again but the planets have not aligned)
- New Age yoga tarot chick (skinny, blonde, hot hot hot, someone I actually talk to like a normal person, and moving to San Francisco in a few weeks. Drats)

At this point I guess I should note I'm about 5-8, skinny, and Asian, so this is not a race complaining thread. Any failures of mine should be blamed on how awkward I am. Suffice to say I'm not really tied to any of these people and it's time to move onto bigger and better things.

Daygame: Something I feel like I could really improve. I work basically a 9-5, though I'm stuck at a computer a lot of that time, but I work close to a college campus and in a neighborhood with a decent amount of pedestrian traffic. I'll head down to Trader Joe's or CVS to run errands and there's a weekly farmer's market nearby but for some reason I'm deathly afraid to approach people during the day. There's also a couple 30-ish cougar-ish ladies who like to flirt with me in my office building but I'm not really sure what to make of that.

Nightgame: Like I said, I'm out a couple times a week, and approaching is a lot easier cause often times I'm working or know people who are working that night some I'm a lot more comfortable. I don't often do the big Hollywood/Vegas club sorta thing, I'm at a lot of rock concerts and smaller bars with dancing usually. I can still be deathly afraid to approach people I don't know.

Wingmen: I'm pretty comfortable going out by myself, I actually prefer it sometimes. My best guy friends in going out are one of my bandmates (also Asian, everyone agrees is a great guy, but is even more awkward than me with girls) and usual DJ partner (taken, but does a good job introducing me to people). Girl friends I go out with, I have two I hang with regularly, one a Perisan grad student who does occasional modeling (she's super social and draws a lot of attention my way just by hanging out, she can also be a pain in the ass to hang with) and my Korean punk rock neighbor (who's awesome but occasionally is like hanging out with Daria, which is a drag).

PART 2: THINGS TO WORK ON
Things are pretty good and fun right now and believe me, I know I'm in the 1% of the world as far as comfort of life. But I'd like to push myself further, I don't want to be stuck as a nondescript programmer and getting the occasional hook up all my life. How to attack:
Career: Be more open to exploring more or other work outside of my current job. Take on more freelance work on the side. One of my old college roommates is starting a law firm, perhaps do web work for them? In addition, I have plenty of friends who work in media, perhaps use my technical skills to start some new projects with them?

Music: Be more proactive in getting out and playing more. My band hasn't played a show since September, mainly due to my laziness in writing and recording songs (and finishing ones that I had started). Just got a new drummer and practice space which will hopefully keep me in line. My DJing gigs are intermittent, perhaps look at starting my own party or regular night?

Leisure & Travel: I don't take enough breaks to just relax and explore the world, evidenced by my two month backlog of vacation days from work. Where is a good place to go spend a week or two?

Approaches: I'd like to lose more fear in this (I don't think anyone is ever truly fearless in this), especially during the day. I'm not particularly chatty most of the time and can get lost in my own head, but I feel I miss on plenty of opportunities simply by not paying attention to people and not being right at that moment.

Neediness: I don't think I come off as a desperate pussy hound or overly alpha male, which is probably why I get along just fine with most people, but I should take the flakes less personally and realize at times it's just a numbers game. I'm pretty mellow and cool most of the time but I meet a pretty girl and it seems to go out the window.

Vulnerability: From Mark's post
Quote:It can mean putting yourself in a position where you can be rejected, saying a joke that may not be funny, asserting an opinion that may offend others, joining a table of people you don’t know, telling a woman that you like her and want to date her.
I feel I do fine at some of these things, and horrible at others. I'm not afraid to have a strong opinion, I'm plenty willing to get rejected or embarrass myself in public or on stage, but at the end of the day I want to be well liked. I'm horrible at making my intentions clear with women. If it's better to be confident than correct, I spend too much time just trying to be correct!

PART 3 - ACTUAL LOGS OF EVENTUAL PROGRESS - COMING SOON
03-10-2012 07:11 PM
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THIS WEEKS UPDATE

Last weekend - caught a couple friend's shows before they left for SXSW on Friday and went to another friend's small going away party on Saturday. He's going blind in his 20s so remember things could always be much worse! Unfortunately only met one new girl, who I wasn't really interested in, but I'm trying to lose that "must approach constantly" anxiety while still actually meeting new girls... a fine line! Haven't really gone out so far this week, mostly catching up on sleep, workouts, and work, in that order.

Girls - I grabbed a coffee with the yoga girl earlier. It went alright, no close or anything, she's moving away anyway, I'll probably holla and see what's up when I roll through SF. I feel a lot better now though, having actually gotten one to show up. I think we kinda romanticize things more when things come close but don't happen compared to when they actually do (at least I do). Then you realize these are normal people with weird phobias too, even if they're good looking. On to more and better girls!

Career & travel - two friends asked me to play in frisbee tournaments in San Diego and Seattle. I like playing frisbee still but I'm not sure how dedicated I am to training and dealing with frisbee-related travel and stuff at this point in my life. Another friend asked me if I'd be interested in recording some songs with him for a label he's starting up, which is of much more interest to me. Things looking good on the musical opportunity front! Now to actually write music...

Plan for this week/end - practically all my music friends are at SXSW and for some reason most of my friends outside of that are out of town as well. So time to try some things that are new and meet people that are new! Thinking some St. Paddy's pub crawls though I usually hate drinking holidays, then I don't know what. Short term goals:
- Talk to 2 girls during the daytime: so far, haven't improved this at all
- Talk to 5 new girls by the end of the weekend
- Get some damn music done cause opportunity is nothing without production
- Enjoy my damn March Madness like any red blooded American male
(This post was last modified: 03-15-2012 04:41 AM by IdEngager.)
03-15-2012 04:40 AM
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Sounds great IdEngager. Let us know how the approaches go!
03-16-2012 09:27 AM
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This week's update: I feel like I'm occasionally being walked to 3rd base and failing to score on the sac fly here.

Friday: Was planning on catching a friend playing drums early and then hanging out at a couple places down Sunset later - said friend gets stuck with a work emergency late and misses his own show. How does a band play without their drummer? I don't know, but I hung out at home a bit longer before heading out and I pretty quickly bump into an acquaintance of mine who is blonde, cougary, in her 40s, and out with another group. We catch up for a bit and she invites me to a party at her place in a few weeks and says "hey, we still need to go roller skating!" I don't remember when I said we'd go roller skating (or the last time I actually skated anything), but I suppose I am not opposed. Went to another place uptown a bit after the cougs took off with her friends and I ran into a group of three cute girls (one was totally up my alley, thin, brunette, Latina, bangs, hot)... but - APPROACH FAIL. For some reason, I just froze and managed to talk myself out of it, when is a damn shame, since I saw them talking later to two other dudes who are way lamer than me (but definitely ballsier, which I admit I can lack) but then leaving alone. I later bump into a lezzie friend of mine who is wasted coming off a bad breakup, which at least makes the rest of my night entertaining.

Saturday - it's both unseasonably cold (40s and 50s in LA, which I realize is not actually cold for 90% of the people reading this) and pouring in LA, plus it's St. Patrick's Day. I drink too much too early and fail to complete much of anything. PUNT.

Sunday - I play in a basketball league on Sundays with my little brother, which I'm sure is of no importance to anyone, but I play pretty much the best I've played all season, which has me riding pretty high. It was a friend's birthday tonight so I went out a bit after the game and approach three girls, all blonde for some reason and all to no real avail, but that's improvement from a few days ago! I did tell one that "Girl, you are the coffee... and the cream!", mostly for my amusement, which did not amuse her as much, but at least I'm having fun. I also moshed with a guy with a Kobe Bryant jersey, which is the most I've ever liked Kobe.

Monday - I feel terrible. Time to rest.

Tuesdays - I catch a show of one of my favorite bands, the hilariously over the top gay Hunx & His Punx. A rather tall Latina comes to chat me up in line at the bar before, but I fail to make much of a conversation. I feel sometimes I always have my guard up and can't really shake it. At some point during the concert, some girl who I hadn't even talked to decides to grab me in the chest and make out. She's cute, but obviously quite drunk, and her girl friend pulls her away and they start making out instead. Alright then. I did bump into a friend of a friend (cute Persian) who I've been meaning to introduce myself to and actually introduced myself and chatted for a bit and talked up four girls when I went outside to cool down a bit but failed to close out much of anything. They even yelled "Bye Andrew!" from their car when I ran into them as we were both leaving. What I am doing! But I had a great time regardless!

In short, I'm flopping my approach goals (especially the day game, where I've had some chances as well), but still enjoying life, so I'm still pretty happy.
03-21-2012 11:15 AM
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