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Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
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Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
First of all, big kudos to Marks articles who all got me out of the RSD fog I was in and actually got me feeling in control of how attraction works again.

Kinda funny how I got this feeling the first time I like read "attraction isnt a choise" or "double your dating" by david deangelo and he started talking about evolutionary biology, high status and all that shit. That gave me some kind of weird paradigm shift which made me feel like I had it all figured out and all that was left for me to do was to go out and get experience.

.. then came RSD and took all these pretty basic psychological concepts and made them sound more complex and advanced than they actually were - Pickup is pretty damn simple when it comes down to it - Just be cooler/more high value than the girl and then talk and escalate, some u'll fuck and some u wont, good stuff anyway.

So I feel like I dont have such a big problem getting laid no more, I have a clear cut formula (be higher value and escalate) and I know what to do and why it works. Been out 6 times in a month and fucked 3 kinda hot girls, pretty good success for me.

WITH THAT SAID

I still feel like Im putting on some kind of weird persona, like Im "faking" that I am less invested than her - Cause I am, Its like I know the "secret code" or whatever (appear to be higher value than her) which have made me be a pretty good fake communicator that Im less invested than her, when in reality Im probably not.

My question is, If I wanna get to a place where I dont have to think about it anymore, I dont have to fake nothing, is that basicly just investing more shit in myself (job, hobbies, friends, social life) until I come to a point where I feel very highly of myself and then I dont need to pretend no more?

In other words, its a long term process that I shouldnt be that conserned about when Im out, but more keep improving it on a day to day basis - meanwhile I should absolutely feel free to "fake high value" when out which will get me more sex and therefor more reference experience (and sexual experiences) with girls?
07-13-2012 11:43 PM
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RE: Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
I don't have any advice for you I just wanted to pat you on the back.. HAMMER!!

Grant me the serenity to accept that some women are uninterested,
Courage to change the ones that are neutral,
And wisdom to know the difference.
07-14-2012 01:33 AM
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RE: Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
(07-14-2012 01:33 AM)Spikes Wrote:  I don't have any advice for you I just wanted to pat you on the back.. HAMMER!!
I feel you.

The only way I got out of that rut was to actually make myself higher value. It took about a year.

I can't tell you what it is that you need to do to, the only person who can do that is you.

I'm new at this site and I just read the stickies, perhaps you should cause the main one is about the exactly what your going on about.

On a personal note, makes me feel better that I didn't get lucky last night. Back to work.
07-14-2012 09:42 AM
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RE: Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
It sounds like you're doing well. One thing you've learned is that if you stick your penis inside another person that does not mean your psychological issues will be fixed automatically. Good to know. Wink

Quote:I still feel like Im putting on some kind of weird persona, like Im "faking" that I am less invested than her - Cause I am, Its like I know the "secret code" or whatever (appear to be higher value than her) which have made me be a pretty good fake communicator that Im less invested than her, when in reality Im probably not.

My question is, If I wanna get to a place where I dont have to think about it anymore, I dont have to fake nothing, is that basicly just investing more shit in myself (job, hobbies, friends, social life) until I come to a point where I feel very highly of myself and then I dont need to pretend no more?

Besides investing more in yourself (which is absolutely the right thing to do), how about this: you want to stop faking, right? Then stop faking.

Mark writes about "vulnerability" on this website and in his book Models. It's a very awesome concept.

When you are being fake, you are putting on a fake persona and hiding who you really are. This implies that you believe that you believe that your "real" self is not attractive or not good enough (or even "bad", as people with shame issues believe). Faking who you are to be liked by her is in itself very needy. By being like that you're also more likely to attract women who fake, women who have self-esteem issues, women who are not sincere.

The solution is to just put yourself out there. BE vulnerable. Be honest. If your identitiy and lifestyle are attractive, you are attractive. And there's something very attractive about a man who believes he's good enough the way he is, who doesn't try to convince anyone of how great he is. You can be yourself completely and you will attract women. And you might actually turn off the superficial girls sometimes (since you are not going to fake anymore, you will turn out to be incompatible with girls who are, well, incompatible with you. Great!), but you will get much higher quality women in your life.

And it's going to be scary to be vulnerable. That's the point. You're putting your real self out there. It takes courage to show who you are. But in return you'll get the value of knowing people value you for who YOU are, not for some fake persona. People can't connect with you unless you put yourself out there.
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07-14-2012 06:04 PM
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RE: Fucked 3 girls in 4 weeks, still struggling with self image
I'd be struggling with self-image if I were you, too. From your post you sound manipulative, fake, and overflowing with narcissism. How about treating people like they're human beings first.
07-15-2012 05:22 AM
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