Feminazis, White Knights, what are you guys' thoughts on them?

[orango]

Feminazi = women who are hypocrites and think the world is their stomping ground simply because they are women

White Knights = nickname given to guys who suck up to such women and get mad at other men for scoring beautiful women, often referring to such women as sl*ts and such

What do you guys think about such guys?

In your opinion, do you think that women with such attitudes and men who suck up to them are to be respected?

[Halo Effect]

Quote:Feminazi = women who are hypocrites and think the world is their stomping ground simply because they are women

White Knights = nickname given to guys who suck up to such women and get mad at other men for scoring beautiful women, often referring to such women as sl*ts and such

What do you guys think about such guys?

In your opinion, do you think that women with such attitudes and men who suck up to them are to be respected?

Well, this is a very leading question obviously. I can't do anything but agree (?) with you that those guys are pathetic. A more interesting question is: why do you ask?

[Brian]

Halo Effect Wrote:Well, this is a very leading question obviously. I can't do anything but agree (?) with you that those guys are pathetic. A more interesting question is: why do you ask?

People often talk about the weak qualities of other people that they themselves have. Base on the post of orango in the past weeks, seem like he himself is trying his best to be less of a "white knights" lol.

[orango]

noooo

but I have run into quite a few of them!

[Jon]

Dude. Stop focusing on irrelevant shit. Who cares?

[Mark]

Two recurring themes in orango's posts:

1) Generalizing entire populations of people in a very black/white manner.
2) Worrying about crap that has little to no effect on his life.

[orango]

Mark Wrote:Two recurring themes in orango's posts:

1) Generalizing entire populations of people in a very black/white manner.
2) Worrying about crap that has little to no effect on his life.

try being cockbocked

[Jon]

The reason you aren't getting any is not that too many people are cockblocking you.

This is not reddit. This is not really meant as a venue to vent about all the people who annoy you and get in the way of you getting laid. It's about improving yourself to the point that women want to go out of their way to be with you.

[Brian]

You're talking about being a "white knight" and "weak". Here's the thing about life, we often complained about the qualities that is most predominant in us. Then the following post, you complained about cockblocking and amogging. Funny thing, if i felt a dude is weak, i actually amog him not because i hate him because it's fun to pick on the weak. People out there can smell blood, so if you're weak on the inside, they'll do it to entertain themselves because most of the time, they're bored.

So instead of being a weak ass, why dont you worry about making yourself strong.

[orango]

okay, thread context got taken all over the place

I hate feminazis who make lives of men miserable because they themselves have such a bad attitude for men, I happen to work for such. What I hate more are White Knights or guys who try to come inbetween everything you do to make your life miserable because you won't kiss up to a girl like they do.

Anyways don't think any of you will get it, no one gets me......

[Tim]

orango Wrote:Anyways don't think any of you will get it, no one gets me......

Lol if I didn't know better I'd swear you were trolling.

No, Orango, it's not that people on this forum don't get you. A lot of guys on here understand you and your beliefs perfectly well. It's that you don't get yourself.

[Alvar]

orango Wrote:Anyways don't think any of you will get it, no one gets me......

Lol. You must be the first one to write that

[Mark]

orango Wrote:okay, thread context got taken all over the place

I hate feminazis who make lives of men miserable because they themselves have such a bad attitude for men, I happen to work for such. What I hate more are White Knights or guys who try to come inbetween everything you do to make your life miserable because you won't kiss up to a girl like they do.

Anyways don't think any of you will get it, no one gets me......

Boo-fucking-hoo...

http://postmasculine.com/you-are-not-a-victim

[bwong]

Wow if you really hate them then just avoid them. You work with them? Then keep the relationship strictly professional. You are going to meet people you don't like however the impact on your life should be minimal if you are truly grounded with yourself. Agree with what everyone else has said in this post.

[Brian]

I actually finally decided to learn photoshop JUST for you LOL

[orango]

this ain't helpin.....

[Tim]

orango Wrote:this ain't helpin.....

Here's what this is about man, as far as I can tell and as brief as I can be.

You posted this thread with an incredibly leading question about a couple of personality types because secretly you were hoping that other guys on here would jump on board and bash these types of people too. Whether you consciously knew you were doing this or not I don't know.

The reason you did this isn't exactly apparent, but most likely it's because you're either a bit worried that you may have some of these traits yourself, or you feel threatened by them because they pose a challenge to a part of your sexuality that you're not completely comfortable with. Either way, you wanted to be able to engage in a little bit of people bashing in order to help yourself feel a bit more secure and comfortable.

The fact is, there are feminazis and white knights in this world. And their behaviour is probably very annoying when you encounter. But that's just life man. There are going to be a lot of people who annoy you, and who get in your way. And you can't change that. You can only change how you react to it. And complaining on a forum about them is not going to do jack shit.

And the guys who replied to this question are on this forum for good reasons. They're here because they're willing to confront the dark parts of themselves which pushes them to take out their own insecurities and anxieties on other people. Or the part that sits around and complains instead of taking action to change the situation. And that is really, really hard to do.

So, with that knowledge in mind, they immediately saw through what you were trying to do, and jumped on you immediately. They were being tough on you because that's what they expect for themselves and what they'd want from others. They reacted so virulently because the sign of someone who just sits back and complains is something that triggers those same insecurities in them that you get from white knights and feminazis; i.e. something they desperately don't want to be, or believe that they have in themselves.

The fact that is that there are two types of guys on this forum; those who are really trying to change, and those who just want to talk to distract themselves from making the change. If you want to get along with these guys, and get solid advice, you have to be in the first group. Because they're the ones who appreciate each others efforts, and who will genuinely care about your progress. Otherwise, you're just wasting each other's time.

So, to get back to what these guys are trying to tell you, a little less harshly but equally passionately: take responsibility for your actions and your thoughts. Don't complain about white knights who swoop in to cockblock you. Don't complain about women who unfairly take their shit out on men. Do tell us what you're going to do to get past it. Do ask us what we know about setting good boundaries with people at your work. Do tell us about all the other ways you're going to make sure that make cock blocking irrelevant. Because we will do our best to help you with that. But we won't engage in crying over shit that we can't control, and especially not if it's going to paralyze us from taking real action.

Read Mark's post thoroughly now (or re-read it if you already have), and take a good hard look at yourself in a mirror. Then make your next move.

[Rick]

Just something I'd like to add on to this thread: How about a new rule? You don't get to call someone a Nazi unless they commit genocide. Okay?

[Edmond Dantès]

http://www.tsbmag.com/2011/03/24/unhappy...t-you-get/

It's your choice how affected you are by such women...but never forget that YOU are responsible for your life. No one else.

You actively allow feminists to affect your selfworth and behaviour by their worldview and opinions and this makes you mad. Not the fact that they are feminists or "white knights". (never heard of the term though) I mean honestly who gives a poo-poo about these men?

And if you complain about your race, feminists or men who support feminists, then does this reveal something about you and your beliefs, not about the ones you complain about...

My advice for you:

-Take responsability for your life
-discover your limiting beliefs and get rid of them

@Rick: What about calling people, who commit genocide or discriminate people with different religions, ethnics, political viewpoints, racists?

@Tim: Great post!

[orango]

read that article, tell that author he needs to read this

again, I am taking actions but that doesn't mean I am adopting the whole overly optimistic attitude

http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/07/t...d-fallacy/

[Tim]

Ah no, you're still missing the point. At no point did I say that the world was fair, or that if you work hard and make the right choices that success and happiness is guaranteed. It's not.

This isn't about being falsely optimistic, or putting on rose-tinted lenses. In fact it's almost the opposite.

It's about taking responsibility for as much as is possible and healthy. Yeah, bad shit happens to good people, but we can't control that. What we can do is take as much responsibility for our own actions and what we are going to do with what the world gives us, shitty or not.

If you were somehow reincarnated as a child born into poverty in a third world country, and yet had the knowledge that you have from this life, would you sit around complaining that your circumstances suck, and slowly let any opportunity you had at improving your life slip by? I doubt it. More likely you would do anything and everything to get out of that life, and to somewhere safe and prosperous. And because the world is unfair, and the odds are tipped way, way, way against you, there's a very good chance that you will never make it. But if you could see a way, no matter how unlikely it is, you'd probably give it a shot.

Now the fact of the matter is that if you are even able to access this forum, you are far more fortunate than the child in that example, to the point where such a comparison is absurd. So, it's completely bullshit for you to sit around and complain about the issues that you face in your life, when you obviously have no idea how good you already have it. If you are living in the USA then you've already been afforded opportunities that literally billions of people in the world have never had.

But even if your life really does suck; if your co-workers are meaner to you than mine or anyone else's, guys are lining up to have the chance to cock-block you, and girls are constantly conspiring to lead you on only to shut you down at the last minute, you are still not a victim. You are a human being, just like the rest of us, and that means you have the ability to make choices. You can choose to act and think like a victim; to constantly complain about other people's behaviour, to think negative thoughts about how they drag you down, and to think up new meaner and nastier ways to trash talk them. Or you can suck it up and start to do something, anything, about it. Honestly, I don't know what that might be. Maybe it's just talking to the people you have an issue with at work. Maybe it's realizing you hate your work environment and quitting your job to find another. Maybe it's going for women who are more certain about what they want, and when they like you they aren't going to let those stupid white knights get in the way of hooking up with you, because they'll decide whether they want to do something themselves.

But until you show some willingness to change your attitude and change your circumstances, you will get no pity from us or anyone else on this forum. Why? Because you are not a victim.

[Traindom]

Why then, would you intentionally focus on things and people you can't change. No one's advising you to be okay and happy with everything. We're not delusional. There will always be something out there that's not as appealing as other things in life. What the people here are trying to suggest is that you just not focus on such trivial stuff. Feminazis?? Really?? Why not focus on black people who play the race card? Or those overbearing Christians?

It's a waste of energy to focus on stuff like Feminazis and White Knights. Focus on the things in life that make you feel happy and fulfilled. Sure, it's annoying to encounter certain people, but just see it as that. A bad encounter. It's not a reason to generalize and screw everybody into the same boat. If you have an overbearing boss, then you have an overbearing boss. If you have a guy who fancies putting women on pedestals, then you have just that. Think of it as a mini obstacle in life.

Taking actions does not guarantee happiness. It doesn't. But at least you're doing something. You've taken it upon yourself to make your life the best.

[orango]

Tim Wrote:Ah no, you're still missing the point. At no point did I say that the world was fair, or that if you work hard and make the right choices that success and happiness is guaranteed. It's not.

I am not lying on my a** all day on forums, I am putting myself out there. Point is, I hate guys like the ones who wrote that article fishing for compliments.

Most people (and I have worked with such people) who are in total sh*t in life got there due to unfortunate circumstances, parental neglect, abuse, bad childhoods and such. There is a good f*cking chance the airhead who wrote that article probably went to some preppy high school, broke a nail, cried about it, and learned from the experience in turn writing the article.

I am attacking the whole article in general and the whole mentality. Honestly, I think IN A WAY what PUA does is give guys delusions. It tells them things like you can have game alone and such and that will get you a good looking girl when in reality (at least in so cali), most of the good looking girls are with really good looking guys or really wealthy guys.

I laughed when that guy said Genetics are a cop out. So let me get this straight, he is telling people even if they look like Wayne Rooney they can somehow change their appearance? Genetics matter a lot. In fact I think for good looks which matter a lot in attracting women, they are 70 percent of the battle.

I have talked to women at clubs who have turned down my friends because their faces were just not good at all DESPITE my friends putting in time at the gym. My friends also had "game" which they learned from this PUA stuff.

Bottom line:

Life is unfair. It is just wrong to bash someone and idiotically assume they are completely responsible for the situation they are in. Sure the person should do their best to get out of it but to come in and say something that ignorant and tell them they are completely responsible for it? Reality doesn't work that way.

You can ask me what I learned from college admissions. Apparently not going to a private school and not having tutors for the SAT cost me my chance at the Ivies. Oh and so did being Asian (not trying to blame race but read up on affirmative action).

[Tim]

Urgh. Wrong move man. There's not much point trying to help you from here because I've said all I have to say.

Let me rephrase it so that it might have one more chance at penetrating your stubborn skull:

If your attitude is just to complain about what happens to you then I don't really care if bad shit happened to you, or anybody you know. Because there are plenty of people out there who are in shit situations and are actually trying to make something of it anyway. If you want my help, or help from anyone else on this forum, then you'll focus on trying to be one of those people.

The fact is that no-one is entirely responsible for their situation, nor are they unable to do something about it. I'm not bashing you and telling you to take all the responsibility for your situation. What I'm saying is that no matter how shitty something is, you always have a choice as to how you can react and change things. Maybe there was literally nothing you could have done to get into an Ivy (which, btw, if that is the biggest of your problems then you need a reality check that no-one on here is going to be able to provide). Maybe you did get unfairly denied due to your race.

If so, that sucks. BUT. So what?

As you pointed out, the world isn't fair. I totally, completely agree. It's not. Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. I've done bad things and been rewarded for it, and done good things and been punished. Almost everyone has. So, do we agree that the world is an unfair place? Yes. You don't need to argue that anymore.

What does matter is how you're going to deal with that fact. It's not fair that a guy with good looks is already two steps ahead of you when he first talks to a girl. It's not fair that some (a very small minority) girls will not be interested in you because you're asian.

But your attitude can go one of two ways; either you can accept that these unfairnesses exist in the world, but refuse to let them have the final word in your success, and try your hardest anyway, or you can sit around and do nothing practical, but complain about it on this forum or to your friends.

You say that you're not lying around on forums all day and that you're putting yourself out there. That may well be the case, but we don't know that. The only real proof that people on this forum have of your actions is what we see you post here. And the vast majority of it is an attempt to blame others, to ignore responsibility, to try to confirm negative (and untrue) beliefs that you have about the world, and to complain. That's taking you further from those goals, not closer.

If you really believe that the world is so unfair that you're destined to fail, why are you here? Get off these forums right now, because they are of no use to you. They're full of people who will tell you things like 'be brutally honest with yourself and you'll see the truth', 'it took me a long time to succeed, but I have', and so on. And based on what you're saying that's all lies! Apparently everyone on here is lying to you, so why are you still here?

If you really believe all that you've said so far, I suggest that you go ahead and delete your account. According to you, we can't help.

On the other hand, if there's even a little part of you that thinks you might have something to learn, I suggest you start a new thread. Something along the lines of 'I have difficulty accepting responsibility for my life, how can I work on this?' and see what responses you get. I'll be the first one there to give you some tips that helped me out.

[Brian]

I'm too lazy to make another photoshop so i'm going to reuse this: