Does text messaging really matter?

[playmaker001]

I was going over the book Models again, and when i read Mark's thoughts on phone game his advice is to make your text messages are as simple as possible. Also, there's no need to be fancy because it always comes down to how well you gamed her during the initial interaction.

That being said, Rob Judge has a product out that looks very intriguing. It's called "Magnetic Messaging" and it's supposed to give you all the secrets on text messaging. Seeing as Mark said that he used to try every "text game method" in the book and said it never really worked, am i better off not buying this product? It's a whopping $47 too, about twice as much as Mark's excellent book Models cost me. Just curious on mark's and everybody's opinions on text game..

[TooFastForLove]

There's no secret to text messaging. You don't need to say all this fancy shit. The point of it is to set up a date with the girl. Once you're in a relationship it's often a common way to stay in touch, but there's no trick or secret to it. Anyone who says this is just looking to make a quick buck off you. Everything you say doesn't need to be funny. When guys attempt to be overly funny through text it often comes off as try hard and makes them look bad. Text isn't a great way of communication and it's easy for things such as sarcasm and humor to be misinterpreted.

[playmaker001]

Yes, these were my thoughts also. However, if you text the right things, what you text a girl can elicit certain emotions from her, which is what you want. You know how you get a text and smile from it? Those are the kinds of texts i was thinking of when it comes to text messaging a girl. I was just wondering if being able to express certain things through text can convert all or most of the maybe girls that are in my phone. The girls that may want to go out with me, but i haven't quite said the right things or made them feel enough emotions yet. Rob Judge is a guy who's advice i trust and enjoy to a certain degree. I don't think he'd spend all that time writing a book on text messaging, if he didn't believe in the product.

[playmaker001]

Anyone have any thoughts?

[Mark]

Rob's a friend and I promote his "Four Elements of Game" book and like it. But I can't recommend a book on texting, no matter who writes it.

There's nothing magical about texting. Your text conversations are going to be a direct reflection of how much she liked you when she met you.

Ask yourself this: when was the last time someone who you didn't really feel like talking to you texted you something which made you go, "Oh, wait, now I *really* want to hang out with this person!"

That's right... never.

[Jon]

There's a lot of material on texting and opening because they are anxiety inducing, so people wanna buy a product. Also, playmaker, didn't you say you banged 20 women this year? I'm pretty sure your text game is fine.

[playmaker001]

Mark Wrote:Ask yourself this: when was the last time someone who you didn't really feel like talking to you texted you something which made you go, "Oh, wait, now I *really* want to hang out with this person!"

That's right... never.

That's a great analogy, I get it now.

@ Jon- I'm almost at 20, but most of them were one night stands so there was no need to text them at all. Just took them straight back to my apartment.

I don't know, I just can't seem to get the cutest girls i meet during the day to come out with me. Some of them i still text on a regular basis, but when it comes time to invite them for the meet up, they never seem to come. Maybe it's because these girls don't party, and I usually only invite girls to parties and to smoke? Should i start asking college girls out for coffee with me or something even though i hate coffee?

[Mark]

A lot of girls don't really party. So yeah, that may be something to try.

Your results texting are going to be a reflection of your interaction WHEN YOU MET THEM, not a reflection of your ability to text.

Considering most of your lays have been one night stands from parties, and you can't get girls from day game to meet up with you, it sounds like you're putting most of your effort into attracting them and not connecting with them.

[Leo]

Jon Wrote:There's a lot of material on texting and opening because they are anxiety inducing

Exactly! But I've noticed too that there's anxiety if you care too much about the girl or you are inexperienced. If you KNOW you can go out and approach a lot of women and you can meet a lot of women that you like, you "shouldn't" feel anxiety, IMHO, because you know you can do it again and again, so there's nothing to "lose", instead you have a lot of possibilities to meet great women. But how do you explain that to a newbie?
I think desensitization is a process that can last YEARS depending of how bad is your anxiety level and how good you get with women. If you know you can get women THAT YOU LIKE easily, why would you feel anxious?

[Jon]

Yep, you are probably giving off a bit of a player vibe to those girls in the day time, and for good reason. Try to give less of a party guy vibe, and yeah, invite them to something other than a party or weed. Not coffee necessarily, but something other than those two things.

[playmaker001]

I'm in college at a big party school, so it's not that unusual to invite chicks out. But, I'll definitely take your advice.

[Jon]

If they seem like they are into parties, invite them. If not, go for something else.

[Todd1]

Haven't been on in a while so two quick points:
1. @Mark "A lot of girls don't really party"

I've met two attractive girls in the last month that said they don't really enjoy partying or drinking. Found it ironic they are both in sororities and I met them during parties at my fraternity... Anyways I'm still talking to one of them and am curious about fun activities to do in college that are not partying and won't be considered an awkward "date".


2. @Playmaker

I don't like material on texting because it causes me to second guess myself. I've read a lot of dating advice and it leaves me with thoughts like "I wish I knew what to text this girl so things will go well" then I go look at more advice. When I think that there is a perfect text or line that I can use, it undermines my value. What I have to say is important, she take it or leave it. It's part of the reason I'm hesitant to buy anymore dating advice products, including Model's even though I've heard the content is excellent.

[Mark]

Todd: Silly stuff like putt-putt, bowling, billiards, etc. School events, comedy shows, concerts, sports games, etc.

And by the way Playmaker, almost 20 girls in one year is pretty boss. It took me two years of this stuff before I was putting up those kinds of numbers.

[Todd1]

Thanks for the advice, I'll see how it goes.

[playmaker001]

@ Mark: Yeah, I've learned a lot this year mainly thanks to you, your books and this forum. Not to mention the approach program I'm doing right now. I'm also planning on taking your connect program, will that be up anytime soon? I feel that's the most powerful thing you can do is connect with a woman on a deep level and I'm anxious to master it.

Not all of my lays were "hot girls" ( which I originally thought i could do in my old Road to 100 Lays thread) but using your alternative scale, all of them were attractive to me and either hot or cute. Plus, some of the hottest girls I've hooked up with have been really bad at sex, whiny, difficult, etc. So i think I've matured away from the " 10 game" theory that i used to believe in. Overall, I've become more picky on the girls i think are top notch, and less picky on who I'm willing to sleep with. Especially since giving up porn.

I'm on lesson 14 in your approach program and about to go approach 25 women today. Man this shit is fun! I'll try inviting some of them to things other than parties as well.

[Dalaran1991]

As a guy who is both nostalgic and travels quite a bit, I used texting to keep in touch with women I have had some luck with.

In the end I realize that texting doesn't do anything, might even ruin your game. For me I lost the first girl I truly loved because of stupid mis-communication through text.

Text is a very bad and unnatural form of human communication. For something like attraction, stay away from them (except for setting up date)

Best case scenario: you've got perfect text game with her. I did with 2 girls. They would keep texting me the whole day and we write fairy tales with our text.

Results? You become her text-buddy. She is comfortable texting you, but not comfortable meeting you.

I rarely even use phone any more for this very reason.