Do you like girls?

[freiheitlich]

Hello,

if I would ask whetever you wanna fuck girls, then every one in this forum would say YES. But, do you like girls?

After tons of flakes and rejection I can not answer this question honesty with yes. I think my question would be no.

What would you answer? And how this effects the game results?

The science say, Likeablity is a attraction switch.

See ya

[Guyintheback]

Good question.

I am definitely one of the less experienced guys on here, and am really frustrated about that at the moment. Maybe even depressed.

But I never understood why so many guys write that they are angry or bitter about girls. I get that you might become frustrated or sad (like I said, I am), but why would you turn your anger towards the women? If I do not attract a woman it means one of two things:

-I am not her type
-I am her type, but failed in showing it to her

Neither is her fault, it's either not meant to be or my own problem, which I can hopefully work on.

If you can't bench press a certain weight, do you get angry at the weight or at yourself because you haven't trained hard enough?

[Halo Effect]

I love women. Definitely. I love dating them and seeing them. I do have negative expectations before I approach, which has to do with approach anxiety. But overall I have a very positive view of women.

When I sucked balls with women, I blamed myself for my lack of success. Then when I started getting success I had the luck of landing myself in situations several times in a row where I was dating girls who cared a lot for me, who were very sweet and caring, where I had the power in the relationship. My mom and sister would keep saying "You are so fortunate, you are so lucky with this girl." Then I'd date a new girl and they'd say it again. And by the way, my mother is also very loving and nurturing, which probably has something to do with it.

By now I've dated some girls who were bad news. Who fucked me up a little bit. I can understand if you repeatedly have to deal with negative experiences with women from the very start, that this can affect the way you see women. Also, I've learned that the girls I dated in the past were flawed in some ways, which I often realized long after the relationship ended. But still, I think that, objectively speaking, there are many amazing women out there. If you believe that and don't accept anything less, and you believe you deserve them, then you will find them.

I believe your beliefs about women definitely affect your results. First of all, your beliefs will determine which girls you will attract in the first place. Secondly, your beliefs will shape the behavior of and the relationships with the girls you are already seeing.
For example, I expect girls to be honest. I expect girls to like and want sex. I expect girls to enjoy giving me pleasure. If a girl does not meet an expectation, I will address the issue, often in a direct way. Or, if she's really far off, I just lose interest.

Girls follow your lead, not only in an obvious way but also in subtle ways. Your expectations and beliefs will shape her behavior, thoughts and feelings.

[Chaos]

I agree with Halo... generally speaking I simply love women... Granted, there're some which are screwed up, some that like to play with guys and some that are just fucking crazy... but those are the ones you don't want to date anyway... and is not about "girls" ... If you just walk around you're likely to find that most people (guys and girls) are likable, some of them are screwed up and some of them are crazy... or at least they seem that way to you. But is not something specific to girls.

So, as a general rule: I usually like everyone except those who are screwed up somehow, from that group I generally find interesting the hot girls and some guys, and from that group I just want to fuck the hot girls and date the interesting and hot girls

[Mark]

I love women... I love how they look. How they laugh. How they smile. How they talk. Everything about them. I adore the hell out of them. Often even when they're rejecting me.

[freiheitlich]

Mark Wrote:I love women... I love how they look. How they laugh. How they smile. How they talk. Everything about them. I adore the hell out of them. Often even when they're rejecting me.

Maybe, this are the reason why you are good in Pick Up.

I have friend they have also receive only tons of rejections and flakes and there have negative perception of women, myself included.

[Chaos]

freiheitlich Wrote:Maybe, this are the reason why you are good in Pick Up.

There's a difference between frustration and not loving something. You always have periods where you're frustrated when you're learning something, anything... and that can lead to a little hating now and then... But I can assure you the first time you get a number, a kiss or get a girl to your home you stop hating them... because you never really hated them in the first place.

If you really hate, don't like, don't love women... then I'm assuming you're gay... which is perfectly fine but you should be focusing on picking up guys!! If that's not the case, then you don't really hate women, you're just frustrated and projecting that frustration into them.

[Schmechti]

Mark Wrote:I love women... I love how they look. How they laugh. How they smile. How they talk. Everything about them. I adore the hell out of them. Often even when they're rejecting me.

This + How they walk I can read a lot out of how a woman walks.

[freiheitlich]

@Chaos

No one talking about hating girls.

Its about Likeing, please read the topic again, you are smart.

[Mark]

freiheitlich Wrote:I have friend they have also receive only tons of rejections and flakes and there have negative perception of women, myself included.

Maybe this is why you're bad with women, because you have a negative perception of women, therefore women reject you and flake on you.

Ask yourself, would you ever date a woman who hates men? No, you'd reject them too...

[freiheitlich]

Mark Wrote:Maybe this is why you're bad with women, because you have a negative perception of women, therefore women reject you and flake on you.

Ask yourself, would you ever date a woman who hates men? No, you'd reject them too...

What are the solution?

[Mark]

Find a way to enjoy women. Stop trying to get something from them and just enjoy them. I assume you don't have many/any female friends. That may be a good place to start. Just meet and enjoy hanging out with them. Try to empathize with them. Ask them about their experiences with guys. Ask them what they like and what they don't like.

[Leo]

Well, it's different is you have to live witn a WOMAN under the same roof in an exclusive relationship. That's really hard, I don't like about women in general how they communicate indirectly ( I think that makes everything more difficult), I definetely don't like how they act when they have the PMS. I don't like how they change so quickly just based on their emotions, they can change EVEN if the emtion is not right. They feel it like that and they act accordingly.
I do love how they love me, how sweet and caring they can be and how some of them make me feel so special. Of course I like the woman's anatomy I enjoy feeling a wet and warm vagina, I love to see a woman when she reaches the climax, it's just wondefurl. I don't like the smell of SOME vaginas though, they can be DISGUSTING, seriously!!!!!!! IDK how some women don't notice it.
And they are differences among women depending on age, I find young girls very funny, they want to enjoy life, have fun, yes! they are inexperienced (immature) but what a difference compared to a woman in her 30s early 40s, they just want to buy a house and have kids ASAP, I don't feel they care too much about ME, it's more about reaching their goals through me. That's how I see it and feel it.

[Davey]

Lmao @ Leo's post.

Quote:I don't like the smell of SOME vaginas though, they can be DISGUSTING, seriously!!!!!!!

So funny.

I was just having this conversation last night over coffee with a pretty Iraqi girl who I used to hook up with - Of course I love women. Most of my friends are women and only a couple of those are platonic relationships. You have to learn to love the chase. Embrace the times where you stumble, because it makes success that much sweeter. Learn to love how women can go from loving your life to hating your guts in 2 minutes - they're batshit crazy and it's awesome. I love the way they lay their heads on my chest and snuggle into my arms. I love the fact that there is nothing more comforting than a girl's bed. It's simply a wonderful place to be. The way they kiss, the way they laugh. All of it.

That being said, it's a very love/hate relationship for me. The more women I see and the more women I date, the more I feel like my list of potential compatible partners is narrowing. Maybe it's a thing with North American women, but when you discover that women can be just as devious, kniving, lying, cheating, immoral individuals as the worst men I know - it really changes your perspective. And many times I've said, 'i HATE women' for that reason. From having numerous close female friends who tell me everything, it's really reinforced my belief that a truly special woman is hard to find.

They're my best friends and my worst enemies. But I embrace the shit out of it.

[Edmond Dantès]

Davey Wrote:But I embrace the shit out of it.

I always love it when you write that.

Yeah women...Who doesn't love them and hate them? I love women, sure, all the stuff you wrote, I totally agree with it. But as a lot of you already mentioned, there are some traits about them I don't really like. But I think it's impossible to find a person who is 100% perfect. We're human, we've got good and bad attributes. So as Davey said: Let's embrace the shit out of it and cultivate appreciation for what we adore in women.

[Leo]

Davey Wrote:Lmao @ Leo's post. So funny.

Here I come!!!!
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[dr. love]

I love how women are sensual and caring human beings with all their motherly instincts, but I really hate how they're often like little kids when it comes to using logic. And I hate how so many of them (especially the feminazis) try to make everything men's fault.

[Mark]

I think everyone has a love/hate relationship with people. There are shitty people, both men and women, and awesome people, both men and women. The sexual component just kind of amplifies the feelings towards women.

[freiheitlich]

Mark Wrote:I think everyone has a love/hate relationship with people. There are shitty people, both men and women, and awesome people, both men and women. The sexual component just kind of amplifies the feelings towards women.

if I would analysis my past interactions, then I would say I have 95% negative expericance with women.

[Mark]

Why are they negative? Because you got rejected? Why is rejection a negative thing?

I don't understand.

What gave you the right to be accepted by all of those women who rejected you? Why do you feel entitled to be accepted by the woman you approach? Just as you have every right to approach anyone you wish to approach, they have every right to reject whoever they want to reject. Why is that a negative thing? Because it hurt your feelings? Why does it hurt your feelings? Who fault is that? Not theirs, certainly.

Stop blaming women. Take some responsibility.

[SeXyBaCk]

Hmm, personally I reserve the word love for a different kind of set of feelings. I enjoy women more than men. It's a question of affinity. Odd comparison but it's like i enjoy football over basketball. I could be without women... for a defined period of times, say 2 months. After that I'd start acting weird, getting angry, frustrated, mean. But by no means do I feel I cannot be without women.

The physical component and longing is a whole different matter and I guess the OP doesn't include sexuality.

First and foremost though I like people for who they are. Not just because they have an innie or an outie.

The OP sounds bitter to be frank. Maybe take a break from randomly approaching every skirt? Focus on something else for the time being. From my experience I know how I am with most women, I don't want to be around them all the time, want their and give my attention to them. it's goes in cycles, biorhythm. That even affects sexuality. Sometimes the interest is just lower, for no apparent reason. Make a conscious effort to stay clear of women then. do other things. Go to the pub, play sports or even videogames with your buddies, whatever floats your boat. No one is forcing you to pry on women 24/7.

[Zac]

"What's not quite as obvious, but just as important if not more important, is how our beliefs naturally screen the women who come into our lives. When I say beliefs, I mean beliefs about women, sex, relationships and ourselves.

The idea is that our beliefs are reflected in our behavior, and behavior determines which (and how many) women are attracted to us.

For instance, if you beleive all women are sluts and untrustworthy, then the only women who are going to be willing to tolerate your behavior are promiscuous women who are untrustworthy. Think about it."

- Models Page 147

[Leo]

Women, we can't live without them and we can't live with them.

[Ijustwanttolearn]

(03-01-2012 04:33 PM)Mark Wrote:  Find a way to enjoy women. Stop trying to get something from them and just enjoy them. I assume you don't have many/any female friends. That may be a good place to start. Just meet and enjoy hanging out with them. Try to empathize with them. Ask them about their experiences with guys. Ask them what they like and what they don't like.

Yep this is my biggest problem. I don't have problems going out with girls I meet, I just don't have female friends.

How do I go about changing this?