Every couple months I write reviews of recent books I’ve read as well as past favorites of mine. Past reviews can be read here: Book Reviews, II

The Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss
Tim Ferriss’ book is fast becoming a modern business classic. It’s the spark that lit the “lifestyle hacking” movement on fire and brought thousands of people (myself included) into the world of internet business, remote living, and work automation. Ferriss’ book shows you how you can start a business on the internet, use it to live anywhere in the world for a fraction of the cost, automate your life through outsourcing, free up tons of your time, and then leverage that free time to live an amazing lifestyle.

I feel similar about The Four Hour Work Week to how I feel about about Neil Strauss’ The Game. On the one hand, I appreciate it for exposing me to amazing new possibilities in life that I hadn’t dreamed of before — in Strauss’ case, the idea that I could actually improve my dating life and meet any woman I wanted; in Ferriss’ case, that I could live and run a business remotely while maintaining a staggeringly high quality of life for less money.

I eventually reached the degree of success described in both books, and in both cases I learned a few things along the way:

  • It was a LOT more difficult than they made it sound in the book.
  • The books were largely marketing pieces designed to launch larger online businesses for themselves.

A lot of people say The Four Hour Work Week is bullshit. And yes, Ferriss has made a lot of dubious claims in the past (i.e., claiming to lose 20 pounds of fat in 30 days). The truth is that what Ferriss describes in The Four Hour Work Week is true and is possible. It’s just about a hundred times harder and more complicated than it sounds in the book. Ferriss’ lists a few “examples” of throwing together a T-Shirt business and making a steady income off it within a month. As someone who has started and failed at numerous online business ventures, it just doesn’t work that way. Entrepreneurship requires a mountain of time and/or money to get off the ground — that’s true whether it’s an internet business or brick-and-mortar.

So if you’re interested in escaping the rat race, then definitely read it. Just take it with a grain of salt. Don’t treat it as a literal how-to guide but rather as an inspiration piece.

Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
“Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta.

She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita.”

So begins one of the most beautifully-written and completely fucked up love stories in the history of the English language. Just thinking about how well this book is written makes me feel stupid for typing right now.

The narrator, Humbert Humbert, is a European writer and intellectual, who rents a room from a widow in upstate New York, where he falls in love with the woman’s 12-year-old daughter. Humbert’s narration of his love for the girl (or “nymphet” as he refers to her) is some of the most beautiful and impassioned prose you’ll ever read about a, err, woman. Then you remember he’s a psychopathic pedophile and your stomach turns. Reading Lolita feels disgusting at times, and then when you realize how much you enjoy reading it, you feel even more disgusting.

But it’s worth it, the first half of the book in particular. Nabokov manages to insert humor and joy into the most horrifying human thoughts. One of the most unique reading experiences I’ve ever had.

No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover
In my four years as a dating coach for men, I recommended No More Mr. Nice Guy to men more than any other book. Robert Glover is a therapist who specializes in men’s issues. Over the preceding decades he noticed a lot of men who had major issues in their personal relationships suffered from what he deemed “Nice Guy Syndrome.”

Nice Guy Syndrome causes men to avoid confrontation at all costs. Nice Guys hide their true emotions in order to receive approval and validation from all of those around them, particularly women. They are agreeable to a fault. They never risk themselves by asserting themselves or stating their needs directly. They are cold and rational. They have a habit of trying to “fix” those around them. In short, Nice Guy’s always seem like nice, friendly guys, but they actually put a lot of unwanted pressure on those around them. It’s passive-aggressive and unhealthy, and coincidentally, incredibly unattractive to women.

In 2007, I picked No More Mr. Nice Guy up in a book store and read the first few pages. I ended up reading the entire thing in one sitting, without even leaving the store. Every page seemed like it was a biography of either me, my father or my brother. It perfectly described my failed relationships and unsatisfying friendships. I rarely read books more than once, but I’ve read No More Mr. Nice Guy three times. If you’re a man who is struggling with asserting himself, creating stable relationships or attracting women, then it’s a must-read.

The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene
Robert Greene’s tome refers to itself as “handbook on the most subtle and effective form of power.” Some people love Greene’s work (particularly his 48 Laws of Power). I don’t like him. I think he’s all sizzle, no steak. The books are pretty, with nice formatting and clever quotes in the margins. But their substance boils down to glorified history textbooks with impassive, Machiavellian lessons thrown in to make them sound useful.

The Art of Seduction is no different. I read it originally when I was full-blown in the middle of my pick up artist phase, but got little out of it other than amazing vignettes about Napoleon Bonaparte and Giacomo Casanova. Greene never uncovers underlying principles which you can apply to your own life or adapt into your own personality or behavior. Instead, here’s a cool story about Don Juan (who wasn’t even a real person, and was based on the Casanova) and then an arbitrary strategy of seduction based on his story and life. Let’s call him a “Rake” (or whatever). OK, now here’s a story about Cleopatra, and so on…

If you’re a history nerd, it can be cool at moments. But if you’re looking for some sort of lesson or greater perspective, you’re going to be left hanging. Out of all of the books I read on seducing women and dating during that period of my life (and it is an embarrassing amount), The Art of Seduction was probably the most overrated one that I came across.

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33 Responses to Book Reviews III

  1. Thanks for the honest reviews. I have a similar opinion of 4HWW. #2 and #3 look interesting. I’ll give it a read next week. Currently reading: Trust Me, I’m Lying by Ryan Holiday.

  2. Jacob says:

    I am completely agree with you about the 4HWW. Once I started doing what Tim Ferriss says in the book you realize its MUCH MUCH harder than it seems.

  3. Chris says:

    The first time I read Mr. Nice Guy… I resonated with it quite a bit. Now when I go back to it… I find myself feeling sick at some of the pathetic things many of the “nice guys” in his examples do.

    The guy who wouldn’t have sex with the hot girl who blatantly wanted it and was in a hot tub with him…Ugggggggggggh

    I feel a huge, overwhelming frustration for him… “WHAT THE FUCK, BRO. JUST FUCKING DO IT!!!!” and I have to put the book away for a while.

    It’s definitely a great book though and I still find a lot of useful info when I skim through. Always something he says about “nice guys” (WEAK guys), strikes some nerve with me though. (What the hell! you giant PUSSY!!!)
    Perhaps that’s a good sign.

    Art of Seduction was definitely more of a history lesson.. much like 48 laws. I thought 48 laws was more interesting though.

    Right now I”m HIGHLY looking forward to reading “Why Does the World Exist?: An Existential Detective Story” …I’m a nerd like that. I’ve always wondered what the hell was really going on here, even as a child.

    NY Times Interview with the Author: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/no-small-talk-jim-holt-on-why-the-world-exists/

  4. Jamie says:

    I find Tim Ferris a little odd to be honest. He writes decent books and I actually like his blog but I can’t trust what the guy says. To me he is the Daily Mail of bloggers.

    There was another article where he says he gained a ridiculous amount of muscle in 30 days by eating something like 8000 calories a day. Oh and he worked out 3 times a week with only about 7 working sets. My numbers may be a bit off but it was something like that.

    Still, the man has achieved a hell of a lot even if he embellishes things a bit. I tell you what he is though, a hell of a marketer.

    • Mark Manson says:

      Yeah, I feel similar.

    • Andy says:

      It’s this one you are talking about:
      http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/

      Yes, Tim Ferriss hypes up a lot of stuff. He never gained 34 pounds of muscle in one month. That’s BS. In one year it’s possible though. Six months – if you have great genetics or take steroids (not recommended). And 8000 calories per day will get you… just fat. Plain and simple.

      But the article does teach some good lessons about exercise selection (multi-joint exercises) and training frequency. Working out three times a week with two really hard working sets in big exercises is a very good strategy. Try it.

      Tim is a master marketer and salesman. Always keep that in mind. He does offer good advice here and there. Just take it with a grain of salt.

      • Geert says:

        I’ve read somewehere (can’t find the link right now) that Ferris went to Princeton and grew up in the Hamptomps :) .

        So he was basically a rich kid ;)

  5. just*us says:

    laying my hands it soon!

  6. Jack says:

    Thanks for your reviews. I agree that No More Mr Nice guy is a classic book, and everyguy should read, I have cut down greatly on my nice guy tendencies since reading that book, it also comes from a very good place and is all about being an honest and good man, its awesome.

    I also agree with you on the Art of Seduction, that book is overrated (apart from the historical examples) and manipulative. Only one for sociopaths.

    Also, thank you for your review of One Man’s search for meaning (In book reviews II) that looks fantastic. I am buying it now.

  7. just*us says:

    you just get it all, infact you just seem to be speaking my mind on greene’s ‘power’ and ‘seduction’…. Nice review, with this Its like we are both similar in what I look for in books, so i can always count on your reviews prior to purchase

  8. Gatsby says:

    I love those Book Reviews posts ! Lolita just got on my reading list.
    Little question :
    You say 4HWW was to you a bit like The Game. Well, after I read The Game, I dug a little and ended up on Practical Pickup. What source would you recommend to read more reality-based and less over-hyped advice on Internet entrepreneurship ?
    Thanks

    • Mark Manson says:

      Honestly, can’t think of anything off the top of my head. Practical Pickup existed because I created, haha… for the IM niche, I don’t follow it much, I just keep trying and failing, trying and failing… very much how I was with pick up.

    • Jamie says:

      Honestly, If you’re looking for a ridiculously in depth guide into blogging and making money through that I recommend Viperchill. From what I have read, that website is THE authority on internet marketing and blogging.

  9. Pushit says:

    I’ve read all those books and they’re all great.

    I have to say that your review of Lolita did not do it justice. That was quite possibly the most emotionally powerful book I’ve ever read (Even though Nabokov claims he didn’t intend it to be).

    Yes, a middle-aged man sleeping with a 12 year old is disgusting, repulsive, and fucked up. I get it. However, those feelings of mad, uncontrollable, unconditional love are a familiar theme even if lust for young children is not. I felt all those feelings of frustration, obsession, and eventual soul crushing heartbreak over a girl and this story did a better job than any of conveying that in a superb prose and articulate poetic delivery. I’ve worked out a lot of that, and revisiting those feelings almost made me miss because although they are very destructive feelings, they are also incredibly invigorating.

    There’s actually another book written not to long ago (don’t know the name) that is written from the perspective of Lolita in this story. It portrays her as a manipulative, sexual, sociopath who used Humbert for her own pleasure and gain.

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  11. IAN says:

    Mark,

    I’m surprised to find that “The Magic of Thinking Big” isn’t on any of your book reviews. Have you read it? It has by far been the single most influential book on my life, and the lives of many friends.

    Ian

    • Mark Manson says:

      I haven’t, I’ll check it out… and I can only review so many books. I try to keep a nice mix of great books, classics, personal favorites, and overrated books in these reviews.

  12. D says:

    Good reviews. I’ve read all of these and largely agree with your assessments. Nabokov is almost scary to read when you realize he didn’t start writing in English until his forties. Lolita is a masterful exploration of pop culture.

  13. einnocent says:

    Agreed, The Art of Seduction isn’t all that useful. The 48 Laws of Power was way better, such that the friends I recommend it to, it tends to change the way they see things. 48 shows you a number of specific tactics for how you can be manipulated, and you begin to see the way bosses, passive-aggressive types, etc do this to you in your own life. By contrast, AoS tends to paint with broader strokes and, like you said, uses a fair amount of fiction as historical example.

  14. Justin Mares says:

    Have you read Robert Greene’s 33 Strategies of War? I thought that was 100x better than The Art of Seduction, and 10x better than the 48 Laws.

    I disagree that he’s all sizzle though. At least going through 33 Laws (and the 50th Law, which I also liked), I felt like I learned a lot of strategic principles that people use to position themselves in a confrontational situation. It certainly helped me clarify my thinking in terms of motivating people I work with as well, and I saw a lot of parallels to online marketing and PR.

  15. Kwjibo says:

    Read faster bro.

    Also, your Guides offer some of my favourite books as further reading, but you don’t seem to review those? Personally, I’d love to know what you thought about The Power of Habit.

    Good stuff :)

  16. The biggest most manipulative scumbags I’ve met, male and female, have read Art of Seduction. I don’t know if it’s because the book taught them to be scumbags or if the book just mostly attracts scumbags and mostly scumbags like it. (Note, I’m not saying that everyone who reads the book is a scumbag, just that the biggest scumbags I know under 40 all happened to read and love the book, without exception). They were all good at short-term manipulation, which makes me thing maybe the book IS useful, but for bad purposes. Then again, their long term lives were ultimately shitty, unproductive, and drama-filled, mostly due to the fallout from the endless, high-maintenance, short-term manipulations and machinations they filled their lives with.

    They all tended to use something called a “Ludic love style.” (You can google it to get an explanation). If such a style is your goal, I guess the book can be considered useful. Ludic lovers seem to live a miserable existence to me though.

  17. I want to add, I “read” the book via audiobook, which I think cut out most of the history lessons that were in the margins and instead just focused on the seduction tactics. I listened to it because after realizing a lot of the weird people I mentioned read and loved the book, I was wondering if that commonality signified something. As I listened, I thought to myself often “Ohhh, so THAT’S why he/she did that. Ohhh, so that’s why he/she made that pointless power play that time.” The one good thing about listening via audiobook with the history lessons missing is that knowing these people, I’m sure they skipped all the history lessons too and just went straight for the manipulation advice, so I got the book filtered in a way they probably read it.

    The problem with the book is that it encourages games for their own sake, not for any greater purpose, which is exactly how these peopel lived their lives. They would rather a miserable life where they’re “winning” mindgames over a peaceful existence where they don’t have to play any. I don’t think the book made them that way, but I do think if someone with such issues reads the book it’s like dynamite in their hands and gives them an obnoxious grandiose mindset.

    I think one way maybe it’s useful is that you can maybe use it defensively to spot Machiavellian tactics? Just a theory…

  18. tONY says:

    Hi Mark!

    I just recently came across your site and like what I’ve seen. I’m going to check out “No More Mr. Nice Guy”, thanks! and keep up the great work!

  19. Pradeep says:

    HI Mark

    Thanks for the reviews: I’ll get “no more Mr. Nice guy ” , I guess there are definitely elements in there that I can relate to, simply from reading your and everybody else’s comments.
    Tim Ferris’ 4HWW – agree with you , its all possible, just 100 x more difficult than he lays out in his book
    Then again, learning to improve myself and my interactions with women has also been a long journey, and though I’ve made a lot of progress the last one year, I still feel I’ve atleast another year or two to go

    Loved your book “Models’, and I look forward to your new one

    Thanks

  20. Matt says:

    Hey Mark,

    I picked up No More Mr. Nice Guy this morning based on your recommendation, and ended up spending the entire day reading it in a Starbucks and doing my best not to get too misty-eyed. So many issues in my life that I thought were disparate all came together with such clarity that I was nearly overwhelmed (it’s exhausting to experience epiphany after epiphany for hours on end). I can’t say thank you enough for the recommendation.

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